re: Dream 3-Deep RB Rotation

McFadden
Cecil Collins
Cadillac/Ronnie Brown (your choice)

You're also using a Seniors, 4th year stats against a Sophomore's. Ingram in both their second years, had 400 more yards than Jackson. If you want to compare more evenly, do that. Over their first two years, Ingram has more TD's, more rushing yards and more receiving in the same timeline as other touted RB's.

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I agree, and I think the Heisman is a joke more often than not. But Ingramns stats were incredible, and cannot be questioned by reasonable people. Plus he did what he did behind an OL that was consider by most to be our weak link before the season. Most of the criticism is hollow and rings of Bama hatred, rather than any other objective reasoning.

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There's room for reasonable people to take notice of how well Richardson did this year when given the chance... or note that Bama was fairly balanced and better on offense than they were expected to be

None of that seems like Bama hatred... seems like kool aid in a way really

And when the Heisman always goes to a skill offensive player from a high profile school it is clearly a far cry removed from it's stated purpose of honoring the best player in college football. It should clearly go to a variety of positions - including linemen and defense only players

Heisman trophy=kiss of death to NFL career

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False

Signed

Jason White

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Didn't LSU beat them that year?

And I believe that the Heisman trophy is for what happens in college. McFadden was my choice when he lost to Tebow, and he hasn't been all that spectacular in the NFL. Nor has Reggie Bush. Nor has Matt Leinart. But they were badasses on the field in college. Just because heisman trophy winners haven't had a good career after college, doesn't mean they weren't great college athletes.

Guys, nobody is sitting here disputing that Ingram is a talented running back. This argument is fricking retarded.

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WTF does that have to do with anything?

T or F, Ingram had the best RB stats in FBS?

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Because if LSU beat them, how could he have been the best player on the best team?

And are we really going to bring up a RB who ran in a piss-poor conference and managed a shite ton of 1 yard TDs?

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1650 yards Jackson only had 1786. All purpose goes into it. He produced on the field, leaving off yardarge when he touched the ball is stupid. It was all running and receiving out of the backfield. Discounting any is stupid. he's got over 2770 yds and 32 TD's and one turnover in 2 yrs. That can't be brushed away.

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Not to mention he didn't even get half the team's carries. He shared the ball a lot.

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You can angle it anyway you want. Just saying he wasn't the top RB this year. Getting 50 yds v Arky should have put him out of the conversation.

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You're right. Because Gerhart's 80 vs Wake was so very impressive.

Ingram didn't get the number of carries Gerhart did, and was held to a grand total of 29 carries between the team's 3 weakest opponents (yet still managed 250 yards). 29 carries was like an average game for Toby.