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re: Dr. Anthony Fauci warns seasons may need to be scrapped because of coronavirus

Posted on 5/1/20 at 6:54 pm to
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/1/20 at 6:54 pm to
I don’t know if that’s true. The only way this makes any sense is if a vaccine comes soon

Which it won’t. It might not ever come. Everyone will catch this. People need to realize it. So the people that are going to die from it are going to die now or later this year. Or next year

As every day goes by I really wonder if it’s worth ruining the lives of the people who are actually living. I’m not saying I’m right. I get where everyone is coming from

I think history is going to tell that this was a stupid tactic that made this worse than it actually is. Way worse
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
2309 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 7:08 pm to
I am referring to the model used by the NIH which targeted US deaths at 60k by August 1st which was used as evidence for easing restrictions. That changed to 68k roughly a week ago which has now adjusted to 74k by August. All of those models assume social mitigation which has greatly subsided. The US is now adding significantly more new cases outside of NYC which is not a good development.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7351 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 7:14 pm to
How many tv shows have you seen lately with no audience? They're still going strong.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7351 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 7:24 pm to
Has anything killed so many people worldwide in such a short time?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33087 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 7:30 pm to
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So the people that are going to die from it are going to die now or later this year. Or next year


I would rather wait until next year to die. All the more reason to shut this down longer. Great point.
Posted by peepingcrxxms
Sumrall, MS
Member since Aug 2016
848 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 7:32 pm to
Doing what is required to save 1 person from a covid death next year will cause 10 more to die For a different reason than covid before then.
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 7:34 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22840 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 7:36 pm to
quote:

I am referring to the model used by the NIH which targeted US deaths at 60k by August 1st which was used as evidence for easing restrictions. That changed to 68k roughly a week ago which has now adjusted to 74k by August. All of those models assume social mitigation which has greatly subsided. The US is now adding significantly more new cases outside of NYC which is not a good development.


If you are talking about this one, it started out over 80k, dropped down, then went back up.

COVID-19 Projections

I'm actually pretty surprised at how well it's done predicting it, so not sure what your complaint is.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22840 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 7:39 pm to
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I would rather wait until next year to die. All the more reason to shut this down longer. Great point.


Are you on welfare or something?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 7:42 pm to
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The US is now adding significantly more new cases outside of NYC which is not a good development.


What? And what is your definition of "significantly more" and give me a number please and not percentages and I'm talking
OUTSIDE the NYC/NJ/CONN area.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22840 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 7:43 pm to
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Less people are dying that would have. That’s kind of the point to trying to save lives.



People are dying for other reasons due to the shutdown.

My mother-in-law had a stroke, has brain cancer and doesn't want to have surgery for her cancer anymore because they won't allow family up there. She had to sit up there alone for multiple days after having a stroke, scared to death. She would rather die surrounded by family than take a risk of having the surgery and not seeing any family for days and dying anyway.

All because of people like you. Her life is meaningless to you.
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 7:53 pm to
The saving lives crew is skeptical to me because somehow they’ve compartmentalized this death as unacceptable. And other problems and deaths as being acceptable

Starvation is killing more people daily than this. Where are The dj dawgS of the world. Why should t we shut down sports and take that money and help these people or tell restaurants that you should forsake all income and paying customers until this starvation problem is eradicated. Where are you? Those deaths don’t count?

And I don’t want one person to die. And I sure as hell don’t ant anything to happen to me or you dj dawg. But if you told me that to keep dj dawg alive for an extra six months millions of people should lose their jobs, business should be destroyed. God only knows what’s going to happen to schools, etc. I’d be like go frick yourself you selfish piece of shite

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33087 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:18 pm to
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saving lives crew is skeptical to me because somehow they’ve compartmentalized this death as unacceptable. And other problems and deaths as being acceptable


Impossible to erase death, but it is Possible as a society to mitigate deaths related to a
Community spread airborne disease.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33087 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:20 pm to
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Doing what is required to save 1 person from a covid death next year will cause 10 more to die For a different reason than covid before then.


Highly doubtful
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:20 pm to
It’s also WAY easier to eradicate starvation than coronavirus

But I haven’t seen you do a damn thing about it. Where ya been DJ
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33087 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:22 pm to
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My mother-in-law had a stroke, has brain cancer and doesn't want to have surgery for her cancer anymore because they won't allow family up there. She had to sit up there alone for multiple days after having a stroke, scared to death. She would rather die surrounded by family than take a risk of having the surgery and not seeing any family for days and dying anyway.


Stroke and cancer? That sucks. Brain cancer is usually terminal without a stroke. Add you bringing covid to her and it’s guarantee.
Posted by N97883
New Dehli Forsyth GA
Member since Nov 2013
8063 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:22 pm to
frick Fauci
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33087 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:23 pm to
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also WAY easier to eradicate starvation than coronavirus


Starvation to death isn’t an issue in the USA. Convince me it is.
Posted by peepingcrxxms
Sumrall, MS
Member since Aug 2016
848 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:23 pm to
It’s not possible to mitigate deaths for this virus. It is possible to let a few people live an extra couple of months while you crash the economy and kill a bunch of other people. Whoever you are getting your information from is a fricking moron.
Posted by N97883
New Dehli Forsyth GA
Member since Nov 2013
8063 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:35 pm to
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If you are talking about this one, it started out over 80k, dropped down, then went back up.

COVID-19 Projections

I'm actually pretty surprised at how well it's done predicting it, so not sure what your complaint is.


The IMHE model is like watching someone predict SF beats KC 65-0, then the game starts and they keep adjusting, 65-7, 65-10, 45-10, 35-17, 35-24, 35-31, I mean KC 31-28, I mean 31-20 KC wins.

Look at how accurate we were.

No you can’t see how our model works. We are accurate. See...

Even the predictions of daily deaths “have been highly inaccurate,” said statistician Sally Cripps of the University of Sydney, who led a team that examined IHME’s up-and-down projections. “It performs poorly even when it predicts the number of next-day deaths: The true number of next-day deaths has been outside the 95% intervals 70% of the time.” If the 95% calculation correctly reflects a model’s uncertainty, then textbook statistics say the true numbers can fall outside that range no more than 5% of the time.

Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:37 pm to
So we are taking dj paycheck for the next year and half to save 60,000 lives dying of starvation. Sorry dj, no paying rent or tickets to Georgia games anymore

I guarantee you he’d be like frick those people. Anyone who says they care about other people dying are disingenuous or full of shite. Starvation doesn’t affect them so they don’t care. But they do care about their .0000001% chance of passing away from this. So everyone else be damned

This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 8:39 pm
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