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Posted on 3/22/13 at 1:09 pm to WDE24
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That essentially meant that for the rest of the day, any pitch that Asher deemed a retaliatory response from the Tigers would have resulted in the ejection of the pitcher and Cohen or LSU coach Paul Mainieri, as well as a likely suspension from the SEC.
There was never another incident the rest of the day, although big State first baseman Wes Rea seemed to be rankled in the 6th inning when a Nick Rumbelow pitch buzzed inside and behind him. However, that was with two outs and two runners on base and came on a 1-and-1 pitch -- in other words, there didn't seem to be any intent.
Rumbelow just came back from injury and it was not thrown behind the batter. It was a lack of control issue. Plus the fatass Rea had gotten 1 hit all weekend. I think the whole notion that MSU threw at Katz bc he is a baller is the thing that pisses everyone off, along with the history Cohen has with LSU. If he had actually done something to warrant it, like act like a jackass, then I would understand it, but still throwing at a kids head is never really warranted. Apparently the umpire didnt think anything was wrong with the pitch toward Rea or anyone else at the game for that matter.
I think LSU will get 2/3 from Auburn. Hopefully we will get our pitching going on Sunday and get the sweep.
This post was edited on 3/22/13 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 3/22/13 at 1:11 pm to WDE24
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Are you implying that the level of success the batter has achieved in a series determines how dangerous being hit by a pitch is?
That's exactly what he is saying, following the lead of the homer reporter of course. It's ok to do it when the bases are in jeopardy of being loaded because Rea was knocking them out to center field all week for base runs. They got pissed we did it in Katz first at bat with no one on base. Katz had the same number of home runs that particular day as Rea had which was zero.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 1:13 pm to hubertcumberdale
quote:I don't advocate it, but it has happened in baseball for a long time.
I think the whole notion that MSU threw at Katz bc he is a baller is the thing that pisses everyone off
Frankly, I expect that the player and coach would be a little pissed. However, they let it rattle them and then took to the media trying to come up with cute sound bits and snarky comments that made them look weak and proved that the pitch rattled them.
Now, many fans are taking the cue from the coach and continuing to whine about it a weak later in a thread about a different team. That was my original point on the first page that sparked this debate.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 1:13 pm to MaroonNation
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It's ok to do it when the bases are in jeopardy of being loaded because Rea was knocking them out to center field all week for base runs.
Did you watch any of the games? Rea had 0 hits until Sunday
Posted on 3/22/13 at 1:17 pm to hubertcumberdale
quote:Not sure why this matters. If a team is going to retaliate, they usually do it against one of the teams better players at a time in the game when giving him a base doesn't really matter. How that player had performed over a 2 or 3 game stretch is of little consequence.
Did you watch any of the games? Rea had 0 hits until Sunday
At least, that is the way it usually happens.
This post was edited on 3/22/13 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 3/22/13 at 1:18 pm to hubertcumberdale
His mid week game against USM????? I said week. Not weekend
Posted on 3/22/13 at 1:18 pm to WDE24
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snarky comments that made them look weak and proved that the pitch rattled them.
what comments "proved" this?
Posted on 3/22/13 at 1:19 pm to hubertcumberdale
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I don't advocate it, but it has happened in baseball for a long time.
Frankly, I expect that the player and coach would be a little pissed. However, they let it rattle them and then took to the media trying to come up with cute sound bits and snarky comments that made them look weak and proved that the pitch rattled them.
Now, many fans are taking the cue from the coach and continuing to whine about it a weak later in a thread about a different team. That was my original point on the first page that sparked this debate.
I never said any MSU fans advocated it, just that him being thrown at was really unwarranted. I remember when Aaron Hill played for LSU and one regional LSU and ULL really got into it. It started off throwing pitches at each other and pitchers getting tossed then Aaron Hill swung and let go of his bat and launched it into the ULL dugout, dug outs cleared, shite was intense. LSU couldnt play ULL for the next 6 years. I would hate for something like that to happen with LSU vs MSU. I just dont think that throwing at batters for going dong has ever really been a common place in any level of baseball. Usually it happens after a HR is pimped or the dude takes forever to round the bases, etc.
And I dont think anyone is whinning, MSU fans continue to argue ab it so, of course, this is a message board, LSU fans are going to counter.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 1:21 pm to MaroonNation
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His mid week game against USM????? I said week. Not weekend
How is it relevant that Rea got his in a midweek game vs USM?? I figured you were talking ab the games vs LSU, which he had two hits on sunday. Do you honestly think LSU was throwing at Rea? Serious question
Posted on 3/22/13 at 1:22 pm to hubertcumberdale
Because he is a heavy hitter when he does get ahold of one and has batted a lot of runs in. Surely your coaching staff studied him.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 1:25 pm to hubertcumberdale
quote:You have been reasonable. I wasn't referring to you.
I never said
quote:Agreed.
just that him being thrown at was really unwarranted.
quote:True. Or in retaliation for one of your guys being hit or thrown at.
I just dont think that throwing at batters for going dong has ever really been a common place in any level of baseball. Usually it happens after a HR is pimped or the dude takes forever to round the bases, etc.
quote:Fans are going to whine and there has been plenty of it. However, the coach's reaction in the media was more what I was referring to in response to the LSU fan whining on the first page to the OP.
And I dont think anyone is whinning
It was a poor move by MSU, but the coach's reaction made it bigger than it was and now lots of LSU fans are obsessed with incident.
This post was edited on 3/22/13 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 3/22/13 at 1:26 pm to LsuTool
quote:The one about always beating State after losing to them by 8 runs.
what comments "proved" this?
Posted on 3/22/13 at 1:31 pm to WDE24
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The one about always beating State after losing to them by 8 runs
I'm pretty sure PM was referring to taking 2 out of 3 in a series, not just one game. Also, keep in mind, Cohen and his staff has a history of being jackasses vs LSU. PM was pissed and took a shot at MSU/Cohen. That's not really a big deal nor was it dangerous to anyone. Well, maybe the next LSU batter that jacks 3 vs MSU.
How did it "rattle" LSU? Are you saying LSU lost the game because Katz got scared he almost got hit with a pitch?
how did it make LSU look "weak"?
I'm not really following you here.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 1:33 pm to LsuTool
They just deflecting from talking about the shite fest known as AU athletics because they know they are going to get their arse whipped this weekend! Just
at them
This post was edited on 3/22/13 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 3/22/13 at 1:34 pm to LsuTool
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How did it "rattle" LSU? Are you saying LSU lost the game because Katz got scared he almost got hit with a pitch?
When thats what you take away from the game and think about all game, thats rattled. now does rattled mean bad performance, no. But the pitch did it's job.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 1:35 pm to LSUNV
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They just deflecting
Again, I dont think you grasp the concept of this word.
This post was edited on 3/22/13 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 3/22/13 at 1:37 pm to LsuTool
quote:I think he was talking about more than that. What is your point?
I'm pretty sure PM was referring to taking 2 out of 3 in a series, not just one game.
quote:Exactly.
PM was pissed and took a shot at MSU/Cohen.
quote:Not a big deal at all. Just too much whining and crying for my taste.
That's not really a big deal nor was it dangerous to anyone.
quote:Well, they ended up getting blown out, the guy that was thrown at struck out and went 0 for, and then they cried about it to the media after the game making a big deal about.
How did it "rattle" LSU?
quote:Maybe. who knows. I'm saying it obviously got in their heads.
Are you saying LSU lost the game because Katz got scared he almost got hit with a pitch?
quote:By making snarky comments about it after getting beat.
how did it make LSU look "weak"?
quote:I'm shocked.
I'm not really following you here.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 1:40 pm to NYCAuburn
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When thats what you take away from the game and think about all game, thats rattled. now does rattled mean bad performance, no. But the pitch did it's job.
oh I get it now.
Yall are pretending that the pitch is what spun the momentum in MSUs favor and allowed them to salvage a game.
That is too cute.
I guess Glenn making his first weekend start and giving up 6 runs in 3 innings had nothing to do with the loss.
that is just too cute
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