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re: Division Realignment - A Common Sense Approach
Posted on 1/2/15 at 8:41 pm to Dr._Jimes_Tooper
Posted on 1/2/15 at 8:41 pm to Dr._Jimes_Tooper
quote:I admit, Kentucky was not my focus. Not trying to do them in, just trying to see if there is a better way to geographically align the divisions and maintain football rivalry games. Considering the rise of Missouri and (I believe) the resurgence of Arkansas, the strength of the division was almost (almost) a push. Apparently the divisions are perfect the way they are.
Look at that division and try to type with a straight face that UK doesn't go 0-8 every year.
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 8:42 pm to Wolfhound45
My suggestion from a previous thread. There really is no good counterpoint...
I've been in favor of annually realigning divisions based on the previous season's records. It makes sense. Leaving divisions as is without regard to performance is actually quite antiquated. True, you never know for sure how a team will perform the next season, but realigning the divisions makes just as much sense as leaving them the same, IMO.
With airplanes, travel isn't a big deal anymore. I'm working off of the assumption that divisions are made for balance and not simply geography.
Seed the teams based on records...
Division 1:
Team 1
Team 3
Team 5
Team 7
Team 10
Team 12
Team 14
Division 2:
Team 2
Team 4
Team 6
Team 8
Team 9
Team 11
Team 13
Done.
I've been in favor of annually realigning divisions based on the previous season's records. It makes sense. Leaving divisions as is without regard to performance is actually quite antiquated. True, you never know for sure how a team will perform the next season, but realigning the divisions makes just as much sense as leaving them the same, IMO.
With airplanes, travel isn't a big deal anymore. I'm working off of the assumption that divisions are made for balance and not simply geography.
Seed the teams based on records...
Division 1:
Team 1
Team 3
Team 5
Team 7
Team 10
Team 12
Team 14
Division 2:
Team 2
Team 4
Team 6
Team 8
Team 9
Team 11
Team 13
Done.
This post was edited on 1/2/15 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 1/2/15 at 8:45 pm to Smalls
quote:You definitely achieve a degree of spreading conference strength evenly, but how in the world would you schedule that when you have to accommodate the schedules of OOC schools? Several second and third order effects. That would be a nightmare.
There really is no good counterpoint...
Posted on 1/2/15 at 8:45 pm to Wolfhound45
I'm just wasting time during commercials bro
Posted on 1/2/15 at 8:46 pm to Wolfhound45
SEC East (Auto Tie Ins)
1. Auburn (Alabama, LSU)
2. Florida (LSU, Missouri)
3. Georgia (Texas A&M, Mississippi State)
4. Kentucky (Ole Miss, Texas A&M)
5. South Carolina (Arkansas, Mississipi State)
6. Tennessee (Alabama, Missouri)
7. Vanderbilt (Ole Miss, Arkansas)
SEC West (Auto Tie Ins)
1. Arkansas (Vanderbilt, South Carolina)
2. Louisiana State (Auburn, Florida)
3. Ole Miss (Vanderbilt, Kentucky)
4. Mississippi State (South Carolina, Georgia)
5. Missouri (Tennessee, Florida)
6. Alabama (Auburn, Tennessee)
7. Texas A&M (Georgia, Kentucky)
1. Auburn (Alabama, LSU)
2. Florida (LSU, Missouri)
3. Georgia (Texas A&M, Mississippi State)
4. Kentucky (Ole Miss, Texas A&M)
5. South Carolina (Arkansas, Mississipi State)
6. Tennessee (Alabama, Missouri)
7. Vanderbilt (Ole Miss, Arkansas)
SEC West (Auto Tie Ins)
1. Arkansas (Vanderbilt, South Carolina)
2. Louisiana State (Auburn, Florida)
3. Ole Miss (Vanderbilt, Kentucky)
4. Mississippi State (South Carolina, Georgia)
5. Missouri (Tennessee, Florida)
6. Alabama (Auburn, Tennessee)
7. Texas A&M (Georgia, Kentucky)
Posted on 1/2/15 at 8:46 pm to Dr._Jimes_Tooper
quote:Killing time too. At home on leave and the season is over.
I'm just wasting time during commercials bro
Posted on 1/2/15 at 8:48 pm to Goose
quote:
Goose
Posted on 1/2/15 at 8:48 pm to Wolfhound45
You guys are all missing the obvious, simple alignment.
Mizzou
USC
Tenner
aTm
Arky
Florida
Georgia
We'll call this division the Able to Win Their fricking Bowl Game Division
And...
Bama
LSU
Auburn
Kentucky
Vandy
OM
MSU
These teams will be the Buttslaved Bitches Who Either Can't Win A fricking Bowl Game or Suck Too Bad To Qualify Division.
Problem solved, see you in ATL BBWECWAFBGSTBTQ figs.
Mizzou
USC
Tenner
aTm
Arky
Florida
Georgia
We'll call this division the Able to Win Their fricking Bowl Game Division
And...
Bama
LSU
Auburn
Kentucky
Vandy
OM
MSU
These teams will be the Buttslaved Bitches Who Either Can't Win A fricking Bowl Game or Suck Too Bad To Qualify Division.
Problem solved, see you in ATL BBWECWAFBGSTBTQ figs.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 8:48 pm to Remote Controlled
quote:
Remote Controlled
Posted on 1/2/15 at 8:50 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:
how in the world would you schedule that when you have to accommodate the schedules of OOC schools? Several second and third order effects. That would be a nightmare.
What?
Posted on 1/2/15 at 8:52 pm to Smalls
quote:What you are showing is (it seems) seeding similar to how the NFL does it in the playoffs. Are you tying that to schedules or not? If not, then what is the point? Because you have to incorporate OOC scheduling as well (they cannot change there schedules any more easier than we can). Also, does that still involve rivalry games? Do they have any sway over scheduling any more? Or is it solely seeding?
What?
Posted on 1/2/15 at 8:58 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:
SEC - West
Arkansas
LSU
Mississippi State
Missouri
Ole Miss
Vanderbilt
Texas A&M
SEC - East
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Tennessee
quote:
A Common Sense Approach
Posted on 1/2/15 at 9:04 pm to Wolfhound45
In my scenario, it's based off of the whole schedule (following SECCG participants). You could also go off of conference record.
Solely seeding. Permanent rivalries are eliminated. Welcome to the 21st century.
Solely seeding. Permanent rivalries are eliminated. Welcome to the 21st century.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 9:08 pm to Wolfhound45
Mizzou to West Auburn to East.
No point of having 2 power Alabama teams in the same division.
No point of having 2 power Alabama teams in the same division.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 9:08 pm to Wolfhound45
I don't know how to fix it but it is an absurdity and an abomination to have Mizzou in the East. The SEC should be better than that/
Posted on 1/2/15 at 9:11 pm to Wolfhound45
Instead of East and West, why not North and South Divisions?
South:
LSU
aTm
MSU
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
North:
Missouri
Vandy
Tennessee
Kentucky
Ole Miss
ArKansas
Bama
I put Bama in the North instead of Georgia or USCe in order to preserve rivalries (i.e. Bama gets to play Tennessee and Auburn every year and the Auburn/Georgia and Florida/Georgia also remain). I think that this separation would keep all rivalries intact while keeping the current 1 permanent cross-division opponent scheduling that some fans love.
South:
LSU
aTm
MSU
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
North:
Missouri
Vandy
Tennessee
Kentucky
Ole Miss
ArKansas
Bama
I put Bama in the North instead of Georgia or USCe in order to preserve rivalries (i.e. Bama gets to play Tennessee and Auburn every year and the Auburn/Georgia and Florida/Georgia also remain). I think that this separation would keep all rivalries intact while keeping the current 1 permanent cross-division opponent scheduling that some fans love.
This post was edited on 1/2/15 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 1/2/15 at 9:17 pm to AnonymousTiger
The ACC and Big 12 are pushing for deregulation. This would allow for a conference to not have divisions and place their top 2 teams by standings in a CCG.
So in the sec can a schedule of 2 permanent and 6-7 rotating would be possible. I think this would be work well.
So in the sec can a schedule of 2 permanent and 6-7 rotating would be possible. I think this would be work well.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 9:19 pm to Wolfhound45
Leave it alone; that's common sense...
Posted on 1/2/15 at 9:20 pm to 3rddownonthe8
quote:
So in the sec can a schedule of 2 permanent and 6-7 rotating would be possible
Don't get me wrong, I would much rather see a 9 game schedule with 2 permanent and 1 rotating. As a fan, it is a little ridiculous to think that you will have to wait 12 years in between return trips to cross division schools. But the coaches seem pretty opposed to this, so a compromise in the the meantime might be necessary.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 9:22 pm to Wolfhound45
Then make the schedule 9 games no permanent cross division rivals.
Sliding cross divisional games, so teams get home and homes before not seeing a university for 4 years outside of champ game
This post was edited on 1/2/15 at 9:27 pm
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