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re: Did Sankey Ever Explain Conference/Team Scheduling

Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:06 pm to
Posted by southernboisb
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:06 pm to
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If you just declare that Alabama and Auburn will play each other each year either through being Partner Pods or as one of the two Cross-partner games... than each of the traditional rivalries is protected.



But if you keep that rule, others will wonder why it doesn't apply to them.
Posted by southernboisb
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:10 pm to
I like that pod format idea.
Posted by southernboisb
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:13 pm to
I'm REAL sure MSU will NEVER complain about the yearly trips to Fl., Ga., SC, Tenn., Vandy, & Ky. . Mizz. NEVER had a problem with all the travel!
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:18 pm to
Each of the traditional rivalries are already protected.

Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:19 pm to
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i dont understand why fans dont want 9 conference games vs a 4th FCS cupcake game.
Why trade a probable home game win (helping towards bowl eligibility) for a conference game (away 50% of the time vs a tougher opportunity than a FCS or G5 team) when Disney won't pay the conference more?

To be clear, I'm all for 9 conference games each year but without the money from Mickey, frick it.
Posted by southernboisb
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:19 pm to
Nobody said we DON'T want a 9th game. We're just saying losing annual historic CONFERENCE rivalries shouldn't be the price of rotations.
& yes, treating it as "non-conf." is doing just that.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:20 pm to
Having 3 permanent match-up and rotating.... you just described a Pod System.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:22 pm to
Doubt he could explain it with a gun to his head. I suspect someone wrote some computer algorithm to do it.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:24 pm to
That's not what I said. I mentioned that if you kept Ala./Aub. from different pods, then others will wonder why aren't they keeping somebody from another pod.

How else do you consider that balanced scheduling?
Posted by southernboisb
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:25 pm to
2020 WASN'T amazing for Fl., Ga., SC, nor Ky. for losing our in-state rivalry game.
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:41 pm to
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Having 3 permanent match-up and rotating.... you just described a Pod System.


No, I didn't. A pod system has the same teams playing each other, what I described has each team playing their rivals.

Alabama can play Auburn and Tennessee every year. Auburn can play Alabama and Georgia every year. Tennessee can play Alabama and Vandy every year. Georgia can play Auburn and Florida every year.

I don't know if you really need 3 perm, but 2 for sure. I figured there was some edge case team out there who needs 3.

Pods don't do that, and the results of these games don't have some arbitrary affect on the championship.
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:47 pm to
The only reason why 3 perms keeps being thrown around on here is because LSU fans want to keep the Alabama game.

They know they aren't in Alabama's top 2 historical rivals.

I'd hate to lose the lose the Tennessee or South Carolina games annually, but those games are not on the same level as the DSOR or WLOCP.

Who was LSU's 2nd East perm before that went away? I know in addition to Auburn, we played Ole Miss which was fun but that was really just there because each team needed 2 cross division perms.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 4:55 pm to
I think when you consider a balanced scheduling has never been a part of college football, this is a nice sweet spot when you weigh:

Protecting rivalry games
Scheduling so that schools play all the other schools in a conference
Geographic basis of the pods

Other than UA/AU what other games are schools going to be clamoring for?
Texas / A&M
LSU / Florida

At some point not everyone is going to be happy with everything, but like I said I think the Pod System gets most of the important things right.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 5:00 pm to
How is a championship decided in that format?
Posted by TexTgrTed
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 5:42 pm to
You newcomers will learn that Skanky & the B’ham Bammer mafia have you on a right-to-know basis, & you don’t need to know.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:37 pm to
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How is a championship decided in that format?


Well, you can either do it like they did before 1992 and just have best conference win%, head to head tie breakers. Which could be funny given the AQ status and the possibility of co-champions.

Or you can just do it the way they do now which is basically that, except the top2 teams play in the SECCG.


Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 11:01 pm to
I think it's a given that pods have the advantage over divisions (due to time of full rotation), non-division (everybody has the same scheduling & extra tie-breakers AREN'T needed to determine anything), keeps ALL important yearly games (easier to work them in the format), & adjust with expansion (granted this would require groups of 4).
This post was edited on 9/24/24 at 11:02 pm
Posted by ugasickem
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 11:14 pm to
You have to realize that you don’t run this conference and never will. You’ll never get rid of DSOR, WLOCP, TSIO, Iron bowl, state fair, Egg bowl.florida- Kentucky. All that shite is locked in. Georgia also has GT every year and Florida has FSU. Go ahead-make a schedule! It’s the main reason we shouldn’t have expanded and y’all should get your arse kicked a lot
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
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Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:09 am to
That than goes back to that the proposed format has very unbalanced schedule. How fair is that in the long run?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30687 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:57 am to
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That than goes back to that the proposed format has very unbalanced schedule. How fair is that in the long run?


Don't know what you expect, the strength of teams change constantly and it's impossible to balance them.

Outside that, you can only stagger the opponents that get rotated to limit teams getting multiple difficult and/or easy teams at the same time.
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