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re: Did Mark Few Call Jaylin Williams a "Professional Flopper?"
Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:15 am to TiderNAL
Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:15 am to TiderNAL
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Pretty hypocritical if he did IMO. Timme gets a foul call if someone looks at him the wrong way.
I was pleased to see in the Q/A that they asked Few about Arkansas' physicality. He tried to play it off as no big deal, but later on he lamented about how strong Arkansas was.
Thing is, everyone wants to laugh at the two first opponents they faced, but thing is, Gonzaga is a mid major too. #1 overall seed is basically saying that the #4 SEC team has superior athletes to mighty Gonzaga.
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Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:23 am to BoarEd
Few got so mad he got drunk and wrecked his car.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:24 am to CGSC Lobotomy
For real?
Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:27 am to BoarEd
Well. He knew he was going to be mad in the future, so went ahead and got it out of the way.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:34 am to Jon Ham
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Maybe 1 out of 10 charges he takes are a “flop.” The rest of the time he’s getting bulldozed onto the floor. It takes a serious “team first” mentality to put your body out there like that game after game. It’s not that Williams is doing anything sly to pickup all these charges (vast majority of the time), it’s just that he’s willing to do whatever’s necessary to make the best play. Most “big time” college players simply don’t want to consistently exercise that sort of anticipation and effort just to get run over. Everyone should be lauding Williams’ toughness and selflessness, but instead you get a bunch of salty bitches crying about that one time he flopped.
Lets be real here. Most everyone seems him initiate the Premiership like overreaction and fake head snapping and jumping backwards ala LeBron James. It is a lot of theatrics and you just have to hope to have a ref crew ready to buy into it. He got the crew of his dreams last night.
If it was the UNC Baylor crew he would have just been flopping all night with no effect.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:39 am to Arksulli
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The late, great Pat Summitt drilled her teams relentlessly to take charges. If it was a good enough strategy for her than its good enough for us.
Taking a charge is a valid strategy, "flopping" is not.
Dook under Ratface brought flopping to the game and gave it validity which it is not. Look Dean Smiths "4 corners" was legal but boring as hell basketball and not the intent of the original game. They finally fixed Dean Smith with the shot clock but the shot clock only came into being because of the "4 corners"
Flopping is not taking a charge (a legal strategy) but "faking" taking the charge and has more purchase in the theatrical arts than the sport of basketball. Christ, it has caught on with the Europeans and has made soccer a pansy sport of late. When I played soccer the old "no blood no foul" was in full effect. To get a yellow or red card took some intense contact and not this fake contact of modern soccer.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:40 am to BoarEd
Sounds like a coach that lost his game.
How about come up with some type of defense that protects your big guy from fouling out Few.
How about come up with some type of defense that protects your big guy from fouling out Few.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:41 am to Windy City
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It is a lot of theatrics and you just have to hope to have a ref crew ready to buy into it. He got the crew of his dreams last night.
I don’t recall a single questionable Williams charge call from last night, but there was one where Williams had position with feet set not even close to the restricted area and they called a blocking foul on him. You’re just another example of people letting their frustration over Williams’ effectiveness cloud their judgment.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:52 am to BoarEd
Williams always seems to have a resting cry baby face
Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:55 am to BoarEd
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:03 am to Windy City
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It is a lot of theatrics and you just have to hope to have a ref crew ready to buy into it. He got the crew of his dreams last night.
Nah. Arkansas didn't get a lot of calls last night. The refs leaned pretty heavy to Gonzaga.
This post was edited on 3/25/22 at 9:05 am
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:05 am to CGSC Lobotomy
This was new news to me.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:09 am to BoarEd
He doesn't really flop. If anything he's really good at making it look like he's standing still while he's moving but rarely do I see him fall down without being hit hard.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:30 am to Windy City
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Most everyone seems him initiate the Premiership
This post of gibberish got two upvotes.
I can’t even say how much I’ve enjoyed this season.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:52 am to Cheese Grits
Flopping and “taking charges” is not valid defense. Sliding in under someone who’s already gathering to go to the rim is not playing defense. Falling down anytime someone touches you is not playing defense. No team or player should be rewarded for simply standing still and falling down.
Are there legitimate charges? Yes, absolutely. When offensive players are out of control, or barrel straight through defenders it should be a charge. But the NCAA kills games because they think if someone hit the floor they must blow the whistle. They penalize teams for trying to play legal defense (Holmgren vertical block at the end of the game last night) and reward guys for not even trying.
Edit: I really loved the word absolutely when typing that one
Are there legitimate charges? Yes, absolutely. When offensive players are out of control, or barrel straight through defenders it should be a charge. But the NCAA kills games because they think if someone hit the floor they must blow the whistle. They penalize teams for trying to play legal defense (Holmgren vertical block at the end of the game last night) and reward guys for not even trying.
Edit: I really loved the word absolutely when typing that one
This post was edited on 3/25/22 at 9:56 am
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:55 am to Not Cooper
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Holmgren vertical block at the end of the game last night)
Meh- his arms weren’t vertical they were slightly arched.
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But the NCAA absolutely kills games because they think if someone hit the floor they must blow the whistle.
Multiple times last night people hit the ground with no call. Also, Jaylin got called for 2 fouls trying to draw charges.
As much as the bitching is about him, there should be more about Timme hooking every time he got the ball- and only got called once.
Did you even watch the game?
This post was edited on 3/25/22 at 9:59 am
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:59 am to piggilicious
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Meh- his arms weren’t vertical they were slightly arched.
It was perfect defense. The offensive player initiated the contact to his midsection and his arms arched a little. We penalize the defense for the offense initiating.
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Multiple times last night people hit the ground with no call. Did you even watch the game?
I did watch the game. My post was more general about the NCAA as a whole. I just used that one holmgren example because he was actually trying to defend, rather than scurrying outside of the circle to set his feet and fall down
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