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re: Did Famous Jameis have similar problems at Hueytown?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:00 pm to TutHillTiger
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:00 pm to TutHillTiger
I would imagine whatever he did that could have been exposed would have after he didn't commit to an instate school, or after he beat one of those instate schools in the natty
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:01 pm to RT1941
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You were a on top of the investigation of Cam Newton/Milton McGregor/Bobby Lowder back in 2010. You presented multiple court filings and records from the Fed's during the ATPB days and now you can't find the scoop on a kid's activities in high school?
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:03 pm to TutHillTiger
Didn't Stanford really want him?
He's booksmart
He's booksmart
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:04 pm to TutHillTiger
I heard the following rumor from someone that knew Jameis in high school.
His parents told all the schools recruiting him at one point that they wanted all the calls and texts to stop because they were distracting him and he needed to concentrate on school and his football season.
They wanted to see which school wanted him bad enough to break that rule. FSU is the only one who broke it.
Made me not care where he went - that sounds like parents looking for a program that will do anything to get their way.
I don't think Jameis is evil or anything - I think he is so talented that he has been given anything and everything he has ever wanted and had people bend and break the rules for him his entire life, so he doesn't know how to handle being told "no".
His parents told all the schools recruiting him at one point that they wanted all the calls and texts to stop because they were distracting him and he needed to concentrate on school and his football season.
They wanted to see which school wanted him bad enough to break that rule. FSU is the only one who broke it.
Made me not care where he went - that sounds like parents looking for a program that will do anything to get their way.
I don't think Jameis is evil or anything - I think he is so talented that he has been given anything and everything he has ever wanted and had people bend and break the rules for him his entire life, so he doesn't know how to handle being told "no".
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:04 pm to RT1941
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You were a on top of the investigation of Cam Newton/Milton McGregor/Bobby Lowder back in 2010. You presented multiple court filings and records from the Fed's during the ATPB days and now you can't find the scoop on a kid's activities in high school?
Presser @ 4. All will be answered.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:08 pm to BamaChick
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FSU is the only one who broke it.
Correction. DAMEYUNE CRAIG is the one who broke it. No fricks given.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:10 pm to AUCatfish
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You were a on top of the investigation of Cam Newton/Milton McGregor/Bobby Lowder back in 2010. You presented multiple court filings and records from the Fed's during the ATPB days and now you can't find the scoop on a kid's activities in high school?
quote:What was the saying? God Not Be Mocked!
Presser @ 4. All will be answered.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:13 pm to AUCatfish
From tut
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I am sorry Auburn, really I am. You guys are freaking snake bitten. I am LSU fan but thought that once we got rid of Kiffen this crap was going to settle down, and I also pull for the SEC in the NC race and OOC games. This is unfair to your fans but a few bad apples can spoil the barrel and res ipsa loquitur. Don't shoot me this is what I am hearing in Mississippi. There are tapes, they were handed over to NCAA about a week or so ago. (It is legal to tape a two party conversation in Mississippi as long as one party consents.) I suspect but can not confirm that they were made by an attorney who is a MSU alum. (No names for now) The alternative is that a coach made them with the attorney's involvement. It was to protect MSU I am told. They likely were not turned over early because there was little or no activity in the investigation. Why, no clue. When it was feared than Newton would win Heisman or Auburn the NC, then be possibly stripped of titles they got their arse in gear to prevent another PR diaster. (Assumption plus little info here.) ESPN has heard the tapes, that is why they are so hot on this. They have or will be been turned over to FBI, which is why they are now involved. The tapes involve interstate communication thus they have jurisdiction. 200k is serious enough to involve them. NCAA has requested their involvement to get to bottom of this quickly. (They have subpoena power, and arrest power.) There are more people talking and a lot more evidence in play that has not been publically disclosed. (DUH) It is important to remember that is is an NCAA rules infraction investigation not a court of law. You do not have the rules of evidence, and the burden is whatever is stated in the NCCA rules but is not going to be "beyond a reasonable doubt" as in a criminal trial or likely "clear and convincing" evidence but almost certainly something akin to "prepondence of the evidence" which means probably or more likely that not. (I HAVE LOOKED EVERYWHERE INCLUDING CONGRESSIONAL HEARING INVESTIGATION AND CANT FIND THEIR BURDEN OF PROOF ANYWHERE, but the tapes will equal preponderence once they are properly authenticated. I assume that is purpose of the meeting of the FBI and John Bond, or to do that or get background. I also cant find any due process rights within NCAA other than implied duty to follow own rules and those that apply though US constitution. Thus, You are not innocent until proven guilty, have right to attorney, etc. It is not a court room and is all done behind a curtain. If info on tapes is correct, it is game, set and match. All that is left is to ID booster for lifetime ban.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:17 pm to AUCatfish
You were a on top of the investigation of Cam Newton/Milton McGregor/Bobby Lowder back in 2010. You presented multiple court filings and records from the Fed's during the ATPB days and now you can't find the scoop on a kid's activities in high school?
That was easy a bunch of the ATPBer were freaking insiders and used the platform to leak and get information and a lot was accessible.
I am not looking for smoking gun, etc but I told someone in media that thought they were played by him that he was basically a good happy go lucky kid but just lacked some common sense, etc. That was my assessment from meeting him years ago, etc. He was not Jekell and Hyde.
My buddy told me that I was wrong and should have known better, he was in fact good at playing the "good ole country boy" part but he actually quite smart and duplicitous and skilled at using people to get what he wants.
I am just wondering who is correct, or is he something else?
That was easy a bunch of the ATPBer were freaking insiders and used the platform to leak and get information and a lot was accessible.
I am not looking for smoking gun, etc but I told someone in media that thought they were played by him that he was basically a good happy go lucky kid but just lacked some common sense, etc. That was my assessment from meeting him years ago, etc. He was not Jekell and Hyde.
My buddy told me that I was wrong and should have known better, he was in fact good at playing the "good ole country boy" part but he actually quite smart and duplicitous and skilled at using people to get what he wants.
I am just wondering who is correct, or is he something else?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:17 pm to beaver
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:18 pm to RT1941
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What was the saying? God Not Be Mocked!
Yes
I hate that the admins deleted that thread, would be fun to go back and read some of the insane rantings that were on there.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:21 pm to TutHillTiger
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a bunch of the ATPBer were freaking insiders
How do you type that with a straight face?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:21 pm to TutHillTiger
There are still tapes. Hell they were played in open court. When the jury acquitted McGregor the feds gave up. It is that simple.
Do you really think Cam's dad wasn't paid? Doesn't matter now, hell Yahoo sports print cancelled checks no one cares.
Do you really think Cam's dad wasn't paid?
Doesn't matter now, hell Yahoo sports print cancelled checks no one cares. Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:24 pm to beaver
quote:Tut had all this insider shite from ESPN/FBI/NCAA, and can't get the BURDEN OF PROOF that Winston tipped some cows in high school?
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I am sorry Auburn, really I am. You guys are freaking snake bitten. I am LSU fan but thought that once we got rid of Kiffen this crap was going to settle down, and I also pull for the SEC in the NC race and OOC games. This is unfair to your fans but a few bad apples can spoil the barrel and res ipsa loquitur. Don't shoot me this is what I am hearing in Mississippi. There are tapes, they were handed over to NCAA about a week or so ago. (It is legal to tape a two party conversation in Mississippi as long as one party consents.) I suspect but can not confirm that they were made by an attorney who is a MSU alum. (No names for now) The alternative is that a coach made them with the attorney's involvement. It was to protect MSU I am told. They likely were not turned over early because there was little or no activity in the investigation. Why, no clue. When it was feared than Newton would win Heisman or Auburn the NC, then be possibly stripped of titles they got their arse in gear to prevent another PR diaster. (Assumption plus little info here.) ESPN has heard the tapes, that is why they are so hot on this. They have or will be been turned over to FBI, which is why they are now involved. The tapes involve interstate communication thus they have jurisdiction. 200k is serious enough to involve them. NCAA has requested their involvement to get to bottom of this quickly. (They have subpoena power, and arrest power.) There are more people talking and a lot more evidence in play that has not been publically disclosed. (DUH) It is important to remember that is is an NCAA rules infraction investigation not a court of law. You do not have the rules of evidence, and the burden is whatever is stated in the NCCA rules but is not going to be "beyond a reasonable doubt" as in a criminal trial or likely "clear and convincing" evidence but almost certainly something akin to "prepondence of the evidence" which means probably or more likely that not. (I HAVE LOOKED EVERYWHERE INCLUDING CONGRESSIONAL HEARING INVESTIGATION AND CANT FIND THEIR BURDEN OF PROOF ANYWHERE, but the tapes will equal preponderence once they are properly authenticated. I assume that is purpose of the meeting of the FBI and John Bond, or to do that or get background. I also cant find any due process rights within NCAA other than implied duty to follow own rules and those that apply though US constitution. Thus, You are not innocent until proven guilty, have right to attorney, etc. It is not a court room and is all done behind a curtain. If info on tapes is correct, it is game, set and match. All that is left is to ID booster for lifetime ban.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:24 pm to TutHillTiger
Because I know many of them. (LOL) To me the thread was about the level of corruption in Alabama and Southern politics and life more than stupid Cam Newton shite.
Did you read the paper yesterday? Speaker of the House in Alabama indicted.
Did you read the paper yesterday? Speaker of the House in Alabama indicted.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:25 pm to TutHillTiger
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Dont worry anymore about Auburn taking players from LSU
This is their last hurrah. The Lowder boys are starting to sign like true jail birds, and the FBI not the "It will take us ten years" NCAA is running the show. This may all break after the NC game it will break before this Summer for sure. As a matter of fact, we should start looking at current Auburn players we would like to have for 2011-2012. This is SMU all over again boys, on steriods. It it is not just Cam Newton. Does anyone know NCAA rules on tranferring after major violation? Don't they get to skip the year sit out? I seem to remember LSU picking up a few of SMU's guys. Dont they just count on your overall scholly limit and not your yearly total? Payback is going to be a bitch. We shoud stay in contact with anyone we ever talked to taht is at Auburn, or dust off those old profile files. Again this isnt Slive and the football Mafia at NCAA BCS, this is real law enforcement, and they dont give a rats arse about Auburn or college football, just putting their targets in jail. Lowder and company are some of main targets. So please dont post say anything you will regret about Reed or anyone going to Auburn (yet). They may be a real Tiger before it is all over. Let all this play out.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:28 pm to TutHillTiger
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Did you read the paper yesterday? Speaker of the House in Alabama indicted.
Corruption in (insert any state in the union)? I'm shocked. Hubbard has been corrupt for years, it just finally caught up with him. And no, you don't have inside info....well, if you do, it has all been proven false. Please go crawl back under the ATPB rock.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:29 pm to TutHillTiger
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To me the thread was about the level of corruption in Alabama and Southern politics and life more than stupid Cam Newton shite.
Did you read the paper yesterday? Speaker of the House in Alabama indicted.
what is it like to perform mental gymnastics so effortlessly?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:29 pm to beaver
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This is their last hurrah. The Lowder boys are starting to sign like true jail birds, and the FBI not the "It will take us ten years" NCAA is running the show. This may all break after the NC game it will break before this Summer for sure. As a matter of fact, we should start looking at current Auburn players we would like to have for 2011-2012. This is SMU all over again boys, on steriods. It it is not just Cam Newton. Does anyone know NCAA rules on tranferring after major violation? Don't they get to skip the year sit out? I seem to remember LSU picking up a few of SMU's guys. Dont they just count on your overall scholly limit and not your yearly total? Payback is going to be a bitch. We shoud stay in contact with anyone we ever talked to taht is at Auburn, or dust off those old profile files. Again this isnt Slive and the football Mafia at NCAA BCS, this is real law enforcement, and they dont give a rats arse about Auburn or college football, just putting their targets in jail. Lowder and company are some of main targets. So please dont post say anything you will regret about Reed or anyone going to Auburn (yet). They may be a real Tiger before it is all over. Let all this play out.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:30 pm to beaver
This is gold Jerry gold. 
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