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re: Did Cam Newton ever specifically deny taking money or knowing about Dad?

Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:33 am to
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:33 am to
Im not buying the hype or story. I dont care anymore.

If it comes out he lied, so be it. I have said since November that we cheated and will get away with it.

I jsut dont really care. Teh games and seasons are over regardless of teat the record books show now or in 10 years.
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:33 am to
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you are reaching past the words he chose to use



So are you.



No I'm not.

I am skeptical - but you have just inserted a word and meaning he never used (when you jumped to "NCAA")

Cam is being deliberately evasive. If people can't see that on the basis is his comments regarding his father during the Chris Fowler interview then that's a "you" problem
Posted by NBamaAlum
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:35 am to
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If it comes out he lied, so be it. I have said since November that we cheated and will get away with it.


I probably would have a laissez-faire attitude about it myself..

Posted by crimsonsaint
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:36 am to
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:36 am to
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I am skeptical


Like i said, that goes to the credibility, not the black and white statemenet given.

quote:

Cam is being deliberately evasive.


because

quote:

I am skeptical
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:38 am to
mmk

let's see if you can address a primary point that leads me to being skeptical

Do you think it was credible when Cam said he and his father never talked about his father shopping him around?

Even assuming he never knew anything about it before it hit the mainstream media?
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:48 am to
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Do you think it was credible when Cam said he and his father never talked about his father shopping him around?


I cant answer that because i dont know the conversations that he had with his father.

It is obvious that his dad sucks at life and i would not be surprised if he did all this behind Cam's back. It would also not surprise me if Cam is flat out lying.

My opinion is irrelevant. The NCA's opinion is very relevant.
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:52 am to
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Do you think it was credible when Cam said he and his father never talked about his father shopping him around?



I cant answer that because i dont know the conversations that he had with his father.

It is obvious that his dad sucks at life and i would not be surprised if he did all this behind Cam's back. It would also not surprise me if Cam is flat out lying.

My opinion is irrelevant. The NCA's opinion is very relevant.



you are very slippery

In your prior post you attribute my opinions to bias and when I give you a reasonable reason for the skepticism you won't disagree with my point but won't back up and say my opinion is reasonable either
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:53 am to
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Do you think it was credible when Cam said he and his father never talked about his father shopping him around?
It depends on the time frame in which the question (or more importantly, the answer) was directed. I think it is plausible that they never spoke about it while the shopping was happening. The question that hasn't been answered publicly is when Cam learned of his father's actions.

I don't think it is credible that he never spoke to his father about it before that interview.
Posted by md9897
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:53 am to
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too much time on your hands


Says the guy who averages something like 25 posts per day...you guys are on here too much!
Posted by md9897
Birmingham
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:54 am to
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The question that hasn't been answered publicly is when Cam learned of his father's actions.


WDE24 - You think that will ever be answered by Cam and/or Cecil?
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:55 am to
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I don't think it is credible that he never spoke to his father about it before that interview.



right

and that interview was at the heisman trophy awards... it is pretty well impossible to believe he and his father had never discussed the issue
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:57 am to
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WDE24 - You think that will ever be answered by Cam and/or Cecil?
I am sure Cam will have to answer it in team interviews, whether he addresses it publicly or not, I don't know. I imagine some day he will, but I suspect he has been asked by AU and the NCAA not talk about the specifics until the NCAA officially closes its investigation.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:57 am to
That's cause my opinion menas nothign at this point. I have moved on.

I am not taking a stance on either side. Those taht are are doing so through a bias nature. Those who think CAm is lying is being biased because they dont really know and those that Cam is telling the truth is being biased because they dont really know.

quote:

that interview was at the heisman trophy awards


No, that statement was made by him boarding teh bus to teh stadium at Ole Miss.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 10:00 am to
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You think that will ever be answered by Cam and/or Cecil?


Publically, no. THere is no reason for them to speak about things from teh past.
Posted by flyAU
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 10:02 am to
If we move on from the trees, will you move on from this please? Let the NCAA do their thing.
Posted by MTurbo
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 10:07 am to
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Do you think it was credible when Cam said he and his father never talked about his father shopping him around?


Well first we would have to have evidence that he was "shopping him around".
Posted by NBamaAlum
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 10:08 am to
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Well first we would have to have evidence that he was "shopping him around".



Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 10:10 am to
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Well first we would have to have evidence that he was "shopping him around".


C'MON MAN
Posted by MTurbo
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 10:12 am to
All that is known as of right now is that his dad had a conversation with Miss State about money. To be "shopping him around" there would have to be evidence that he spoke to multiple institutions about money.
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