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re: Dan Mullen reminds me of lane kiffin
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:19 am to Vecchio Cane
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:19 am to Vecchio Cane
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Mullen has won 64% of his games as HC.
This is an asinine statistic. Mullen *smartly* made it a priority to ensure that Miss St's OOC schedule was as manageable as possible. But using overall career win percentage to point to Dan as a value prop is a bit silly.
Mullen has had the advantage of 4 regular season OOC games for his entire career as a HC. In all of those years prior to UF, he faced exactly 2 P5 OOC regular season matchups. So he has a regular season record that consists of roughly 33% sisters of the poor and G5 teams mostly played at home.
Saban on the other hand, prior to Alabama, played either 1 P5 team or 1 ranked team OOC just about every year. Some of those years at Michigan State, it was actually a P5 team + Notre Dame. Almost all of those years, his regular season OOC schedule was only 3 games as well.
If you account for non-regular season games, you then add in SECCG appearances for Saban which Mullen has none of... obviously more challenging games. And then the level of competition in bowl games. Saban both at Michigan State and LSU was facing off against top 25 talent more often than not in bowl games. Mullen on the other hand had bowl game wins over Miami (OH), Rice, and Wake Forest for example. Saban only played 2 bowl games against non-ranked opponents... Stanford and LSU (while at Michigan St).
The recipe Mullen had at Miss St for success isn't a secret... it's just odd that everyone is touting it as a reason that he is going to bring UF back to the top... Their schedule is pretty manageable with FSU down... If he can start beating UGA at all, he likely gets to the SECCG and maybe UF fans are happy with that, but nothing about what he's doing looks to be challenging Alabama anytime soon. And UF already had a guy that was doing that in MacElwain...
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:36 am to Vecchio Cane
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that is how it works. People who it doesn't bother just ignore that kid. UGa fans start 5 threads a day about Dan Mullen
Laughing at the trash talking kid you just knocked out is fun and fun isn’t a bother.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:45 am to fibonaccisquared
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This is an asinine statistic. Mullen *smartly* made it a priority to ensure that Miss St's OOC schedule was as manageable as possible. But using overall career win percentage to point to Dan as a value prop is a bit silly. Mullen has had the advantage of 4 regular season OOC games for his entire career as a HC. In all of those years prior to UF, he faced exactly 2 P5 OOC regular season matchups. So he has a regular season record that consists of roughly 33% sisters of the poor and G5 teams mostly played at home. Saban on the other hand, prior to Alabama, played either 1 P5 team or 1 ranked team OOC just about every year. Some of those years at Michigan State, it was actually a P5 team + Notre Dame. Almost all of those years, his regular season OOC schedule was only 3 games as well. If you account for non-regular season games, you then add in SECCG appearances for Saban which Mullen has none of... obviously more challenging games. And then the level of competition in bowl games. Saban both at Michigan State and LSU was facing off against top 25 talent more often than not in bowl games. Mullen on the other hand had bowl game wins over Miami (OH), Rice, and Wake Forest for example. Saban only played 2 bowl games against non-ranked opponents... Stanford and LSU (while at Michigan St). The recipe Mullen had at Miss St for success isn't a secret... it's just odd that everyone is touting it as a reason that he is going to bring UF back to the top... Their schedule is pretty manageable with FSU down... If he can start beating UGA at all, he likely gets to the SECCG and maybe UF fans are happy with that, but nothing about what he's doing looks to be challenging Alabama anytime soon. And UF already had a guy that was doing that in MacElwain...
Ho-lee shite.
Glad Mullen doesn't bother you Dawgs.
Have a Nice Day!
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:53 am to Vecchio Cane
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Ho-lee shite.
I love the level of inadequacy displayed on this board when presented with facts countering your opinion. It really never gets old.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:58 am to fibonaccisquared
They are just scared.
They know Mullen took a 4 win team and in one season finished in the top ten with it.
Which was significantly better than Smart's first year.
The fear is back. It's nice. Sympathy is far worse.
They know Mullen took a 4 win team and in one season finished in the top ten with it.
Which was significantly better than Smart's first year.
The fear is back. It's nice. Sympathy is far worse.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 11:59 am
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:59 am to fibonaccisquared
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I love the level of inadequacy displayed on this board when presented with facts countering your opinion. It really never gets old
I gave simple evidence in the form of winning percentages. No opinions were presented.
You wrote a thesis on why Dan is bad
The inadequacy falls on your attempt to pretend that Mullen isn't chapping your arse Good Luck to Georgia. As an MSU fan I would enjoy seeing Dan humbled a bit. He could use it. But pretending Mullen isn't legit is as dumb as pretending he isn't effective at agitating his rivals
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:07 pm to koreandawg
you can't honestly think UF doesn't have a staff full of undergrads that research every little tidbit of information available on opposing teams. as does every other D1 school there is.
agree 110% about the scar fan reference though. the big spur recruiting analyst ,strelow , would have them all believing they have 5-10 Heisman potential recruits each and every year.
agree 110% about the scar fan reference though. the big spur recruiting analyst ,strelow , would have them all believing they have 5-10 Heisman potential recruits each and every year.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:22 pm to Gatorbait2008
Gus took a 3 win team to an SEC championship and national title game in year one. Sumlin's first year, coming off a 6 loss season in the Big 12, was the best A&M team since the mid 90s.
These coaches had great first years, too. What happened when they were faced with preseason top 10 expectations?
These coaches had great first years, too. What happened when they were faced with preseason top 10 expectations?
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:32 pm to Vecchio Cane
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I gave simple evidence in the form of winning percentages. No opinions were presented.
So you're saying you said something but didn't have any opinion on it...
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Mullen has won 64% of his games as HC. Saban, pre-Bama, won 67% of his games as HC. UF isn't Bama and Dan is no Saban. But to downplay Mullen because of his "average head coaching record" is stupid
I think it's reasonable to assume that based on your statement, you are saying that Dan is at least substantively better than just an "average" head coach? If not, then maybe it was unnecessary.
You used a comparison of Saban's overall record to try and imply that the differential is some indicator of that "better than average" status.
I showed you with the same math that we used when he was hired... (It's not like I needed to re-invent the wheel here) that Mullen while a fine coach simply isn't as good as many want to make out.
Personally, Dan can run his mouth as much as he wants. If anything, it's just more fuel for the fire in Jacksonville. At this point, I don't *think* our team needs a lot of juice to get up for the game, but I'll take it anyways. It doesn't mean it's not amusing.
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pretending Mullen isn't legit
Who said this? All I pointed out is that the statistic you used to try and indicate he was a better than average coach was misguided... His career record in the conference is... a little worse than 4-4... or more or less average.
If you notice the last line in my reply... I could easily see UF winning in Jacksonville in 2020 with UGA likely replacing QB, both starting OTs, etc... But I also don't see a coach that looks to take down Alabama or significantly improve their roster talent. So he'll likely be better than Mac, worse than Meyer.
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