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re: Cowherd announces a major football program about to get busted
Posted on 3/1/11 at 1:55 pm to TreyAnastasio
Posted on 3/1/11 at 1:55 pm to TreyAnastasio
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It was part of the Trooper/Big Cat weekend thing. There was an emergency meeting in Sanibel
So where is something that states the NCAA told Auburn to stop recruiting Lache? And considering Big Cat Weekend involved several recruits, where is something stating the NCAA told Auburn to stop recruiting every one of those recruits?
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Posted on 3/1/11 at 1:56 pm to TreyAnastasio
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Because they had committed the violations with him. The NCAA told them to back off.
We still recruited and signed some of the other recruits that were part of the secondary violations that occured at Toomers Corner. Add to that the fact that LSU stopped recruiting him around the same time we did and well you get the point.
Posted on 3/1/11 at 1:58 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
Lache came to BCW with an amount he was looking to secure
Posted on 3/1/11 at 1:58 pm to TreyAnastasio
The best explanation I can think of for the Seastrunk situation is that someone close to him came to Auburn with their hand out for money and Auburn had to stop recruiting him. You can tell from his interviews how badly he wanted to be at Auburn, so I feel bad for the kid.
I definitely don't buy all the stuff about the other recruits not liking him and telling our coaches they didn't want him at Auburn.
I definitely don't buy all the stuff about the other recruits not liking him and telling our coaches they didn't want him at Auburn.
This post was edited on 3/1/11 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 3/1/11 at 1:58 pm to marshallcotiger
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We still recruited and signed some of the other recruits that were part of the secondary violations that occured at Toomers Corner. Add to that the fact that LSU stopped recruiting him around the same time we did and well you get the point.
Reckon the 'AA got wind of the amount of $$ being thrown around on this kid?
Posted on 3/1/11 at 1:59 pm to molsusports
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think your definition is right but you applied it in a way to make him wrong
If his posit was "we should not assume LSU is cheating because there has not been shown to be cheating in the past" then his use of Occam's razor seems reasonable
And by cheating I mean substantial (cash) shenanigans not hundred dollar handshakes or getting a cheap apartment you shouldn't have been able to get... I think that type of stuff probably goes on
That would be correct if the original argument was over whether LSU is cheating. But it wasn't. The original argument was the logic he used to show LSU will neer go on probabtion. As I said, I don't think LSU is cheating, merely that his logic sucks.
Posted on 3/1/11 at 1:59 pm to TreyAnastasio
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Lache came to BCW with an amount he was looking to secure
So I take it you are stating that your earlier post was a lie?
Posted on 3/1/11 at 1:59 pm to secfan123
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Actually, thats not Occams razor. Occam's razor states "Plurality ust never be posited without neccessity" and it refers to burden of proof, not explanations. You have incorrectly applied it here. You posit that "LSU will never be caught cheating because LSU hasn't been caught in the past." If your posit were true, no one would EVER be caught cheating ecause no one would have been cught the first time. Occam's Razor has nothing to do with that failure of logic.
Dude, I even provided a link. Occam's razor
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Occam's razor (or Ockham's razor[1]), often expressed in Latin as the lex parsimoniae, translating to law of parsimony, law of economy or law of succinctness, is a principle that generally recommends selecting the competing hypothesis that makes the fewest new assumptions, when the hypotheses are equal in other respects
The principle is often incorrectly summarized as "the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one".
First, we argue about whether LSU is cheating...which I win by default in lieu of any proof of same IE NCAA penalties..now we're arguing about the use of a definition of a principle I provided a link for in the first place.
I never said anything about the future. Just said our past is clean, which it is. And I'm neither the first or the last one to say that LSU doesn't cheat because it doesn't have to. And it's not just LSU fans that say this. It's a fairly widely held opinion. Sorry if it's news to you.
Posted on 3/1/11 at 1:59 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
quote:Wow, you just boomed yourself with your own link.
Occam's Razor.... "the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one"...is one of the fundamental principles of logic.
Directly from your own link:
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The principle is often incorrectly summarized as "the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one".
This post was edited on 3/1/11 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 3/1/11 at 2:00 pm to e2drummer
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The best explanation I can think of for the Seastrunk situation is that someone close to him came to Auburn with their hand out for money and Auburn had to stop recruiting him. You can tell from his interviews how badly he wanted to be at Auburn. I feel bad for the kid.
I definitely don't buy all the stuff about the other recruits not liking him and telling our coaches they didn't want him at Auburn.
Damn, that sounds an awful lot like the Cam Newton/MSU situation doesn't it?
Posted on 3/1/11 at 2:00 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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TigersOfGeauxld
Dude your own fans that actually know something say they have done shady things, just never got caught.
Posted on 3/1/11 at 2:01 pm to WDE24
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Wow, you just boomed yourself with your own link
You'd have a case, except I provided a link in the first place.
And again, Auburn fans...
Posted on 3/1/11 at 2:01 pm to RT1941
Not really, considering MSU never stopped recruiting him.
Posted on 3/1/11 at 2:01 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
Im not following you. Lache and Auburn engaged in some talks of possible $. The NCAA caught wind and told Auburn to back off.
Posted on 3/1/11 at 2:03 pm to TreyAnastasio
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Lache and Auburn engaged in some talks of possible $. The NCAA caught wind and told Auburn to back off.
Where is a link to this claim you are making?
Posted on 3/1/11 at 2:03 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
quote:Uh...yeah...a link that proves your assertion for what Occam's Razor is is incorrect.
You'd have a case, except I provided a link in the first place.
Did you even read it?
Posted on 3/1/11 at 2:04 pm to TreyAnastasio
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Im not following you. Lache and Auburn engaged in some talks of possible $. The NCAA caught wind and told Auburn to back off.
No they told trooper and someone else they could not recruit them for 6 weeks because they were involved in the rolling of toomers(gameday simulation) for big cat weekend. Auburn was still allowed to recruit him
Auburn then went after Dyer and lattimore as their targets
This post was edited on 3/1/11 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 3/1/11 at 2:05 pm to NYCAuburn
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Dude your own fans that actually know something say they have done shady things, just never got caught.
Anyone can have an opinion. I'm saying the facts of the matter don't support the contention.
I've got history on my side. They've got hot air.
I win.
Posted on 3/1/11 at 2:06 pm to TreyAnastasio
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Im not following you. Lache and Auburn engaged in some talks of possible $. The NCAA caught wind and told Auburn to back off.
Why did LSU back off?
Posted on 3/1/11 at 2:06 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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TigersOfGeauxld
I hope that rock is heavy.
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