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re: Could Gruden beat Nick Saban or Les Miles?
Posted on 4/23/12 at 8:36 am to ksrph
Posted on 4/23/12 at 8:36 am to ksrph
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Again, is that why he hasn't coached in several years?
Him not coaching the last several years doesn't mean he's a bad coach. And it's not like he doesn't have a lucrative TV gig that pays him a lot of money for relatively little work.
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Refresh my memory, was he let go at Tampa? If he's so great, why wasn't he immediately picked up by another team?
Because more than 1 party has to agree to a coaching deal? He can't be drafted into a job.
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I think he would bring a lot of excitement to the Hogs, but, I don't think he wants to work that hard.
What's his favorite color?
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He has connections to Tennessee and he didn't take that job when it was open.
He was offered? As far as I know, he's been offered the OC job at Oregon and was briefly talked to regarding the HC job at Miami. That's it, from what I know. Once again, he can't take a job that's not offered to him. The presence of an offer from Tennessee hardly seems like a good proxy by which to judge his worth, based on their last couple of hires.
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Let's be honest, Tennessee would be considered a higher level program than Arkansas.
Historically, sure. At this point? Not even close.
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 8:47 am to rolltide1283
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Gruden would be able to hold his own but don't try to say that Arky ever finished ahead of Bama under Petrino. 2010 was a 3 way tie for 2nd. Petrino never could beat Saban but I do believe Gruden would at least make the games competitive in Tuscaloosa.
2010 wasn't a 3 way tie.
Auburn. 8-0
Arkansas 6-2
LSU. 6-2
Alabama. 5-3
Posted on 4/23/12 at 8:49 am to Raz4back
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2010 wasn't a 3 way tie.
Auburn. 8-0
Arkansas 6-2
LSU. 6-2
Alabama. 5-3
You'll have to forgive a lot of the LSU/Bama fans on this site. They didn't exist prior to 2011.
Posted on 4/23/12 at 8:51 am to ocelot4ark
Kinda like y'all are still living in 2010
Posted on 4/23/12 at 9:05 am to hg
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Kinda like y'all are still living in 2010
Shut the frick up. Who is living in 2010? Facts are facts. Can't tell you how many times we've read on the rant that, "Petrino can't finish ahead of LSU and Bama. They've reached their mountain top." "Petrino can't beat Miles."
Pointing out that both of those things have, in fact, happened isn't living in the past. It's pointing out facts in the face of garbage.
Posted on 4/23/12 at 9:32 am to hg
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Kinda like y'all are still living in 2010
I hardly call posting facts refuting a bogus claim living in the past.
Posted on 4/23/12 at 9:57 am to ocelot4ark
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And it's not like he doesn't have a lucrative TV gig that pays him a lot of money for relatively little work.
That right there is reason enough to debunk this JG to Arky talk.
He makes over $5mm/yr with his own TV gig right now with relatively little work. Why would he take a 24/7/365 college coaching gig for less pay?
Posted on 4/23/12 at 10:18 am to RT1941
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That right there is reason enough to debunk this JG to Arky talk.
He makes over $5mm/yr with his own TV gig right now with relatively little work. Why would he take a 24/7/365 college coaching gig for less pay?
1) I never said he was coming to Arkansas. I don't think he will.
2) He wants to coach again?
3) We could pay him very close to $5MM/yr. More with incentives.
Posted on 4/23/12 at 10:24 am to ocelot4ark
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You'll have to forgive a lot of the LSU/Bama fans on this site. They didn't exist prior to 2011.
Yup. Bama and LSU have one year as the dominant teams in the conference and now they are going to run shite until the end of time.
Posted on 4/23/12 at 10:27 am to Arkansasrazorback
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Bama and LSU have one year as the dominant teams in the conference
Posted on 4/23/12 at 10:30 am to Choctaw
I meant in the same year being as dominant as they were. LSU was dominant in 2010? 2009?
ETA: shite, name a year other than 2011 in which specifically Bama and LSU were far and away the two best teams in CFB. You probably can't yet Bama and LSU fans act like this is a trend rather than a one year anomaly.
ETA: shite, name a year other than 2011 in which specifically Bama and LSU were far and away the two best teams in CFB. You probably can't yet Bama and LSU fans act like this is a trend rather than a one year anomaly.
This post was edited on 4/23/12 at 10:37 am
Posted on 4/23/12 at 10:48 am to Arkansasrazorback
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I meant in the same year being as dominant as they were
sorry...thats not the way i read it
Posted on 4/23/12 at 12:56 pm to Arkansasrazorback
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Bama and LSU have one year as the dominant teams in the conference and now they are going to run shite until the end of time.
Refresh my memory, who won 2 of the last 3 BCS Championships? Who beat Petrino every year he was at Arky? Noone said LSU and Bama were gonna dominate til the end of time but Arky hasn't done anything in the SEC and until y'all do, out of big boy discussions. Y'all are still at the kiddy table with MSU and OM and will continue to be no matter who y'all get as coach.
Posted on 4/23/12 at 12:59 pm to rolltide1283
Still not getting what I said even after I clarified.
Posted on 4/23/12 at 1:01 pm to Arkansasrazorback
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Still not getting what I said even after I clarified.
rolltide1283
Posted on 4/23/12 at 1:03 pm to Arkansasrazorback
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Still not getting what I said even after I clarified.
What did u say?
ETA: I just noticed what you said earlier and I agree that 2011 was a great year for both LSU and Bama and that probably won't happen consistently. However, Bama has always been better than Arky under Petrino so just because y'all finished ahead of us on a technicality doesn't mean y'all were better than us in 2010. Until y'all are able to beat LSU and Bama consistently, don't waste ur time trying to defend Arky.
This post was edited on 4/23/12 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 4/23/12 at 1:12 pm to rolltide1283
It's still there. You can read it.
My comment relates to how unusual it is to see two teams from the same division be that good in the same year.
My comment relates to how unusual it is to see two teams from the same division be that good in the same year.
Posted on 4/23/12 at 1:30 pm to Arkansasrazorback
I realize y'all are always going to defend your school and u should but I get tired of Arky fans thinking that y'all are on par with LSU and Bama. We may not win the West every year but I guarantee you that we will both win the West more consisently than anyone else.
Posted on 4/23/12 at 1:36 pm to CrimsonChin
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Could Gruden beat Nick Saban or Les Miles?
In individual games I think he might but I don't think he has any idea of what it would take to run a college football program - plus anyone who watched him at the end in Tampa Bay has to still have concerns about WTF went so wrong with him there. Are there examples of coaches who have flamed out that badly and then do great somewhere else later on? I'm searching for an exception and coming up empty.
If you're a NFL head coach you can focus on coaching and work with your GM to manage personnel. Coaching in college is also about recruiting and a thousand details that go into managing around a hundred kids with raging testosterone levels and variable desires to go to class and stay out of trouble.
Obviously some of the coaching fundamentals and strategy overlap but coaching in the NFL is really different IMO from coaching in college.
Posted on 4/23/12 at 1:39 pm to rolltide1283
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ETA: I just noticed what you said earlier and I agree that 2011 was a great year for both LSU and Bama and that probably won't happen consistently. However, Bama has always been better than Arky under Petrino so just because y'all finished ahead of us on a technicality doesn't mean y'all were better than us in 2010. Until y'all are able to beat LSU and Bama consistently, don't waste ur time trying to defend Arky.
A technicality? Since when is a teams conference record a technicality?
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