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re: Could Bama be losing their OC? Tommy Rees now a candidate for Northwestern HC
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:13 pm to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:13 pm to SidewalkTiger
Exaggerating what? 
I gave you three damn names that fit the criteria.
Christ you’re hard headed.
I gave you three damn names that fit the criteria.
Christ you’re hard headed.
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:15 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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I gave you three damn names that fit the criteria.
Christ you’re hard headed.
Slow on the draw too.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:18 pm to bamameister
This thread got so derailed. I’m not even sure anyone realizes Rees was being mentioned as a replacement NEXT YEAR. Northwestern named an interim head coach they’re moving forward with.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:18 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Exaggerating what?
I gave you three damn names that fit the criteria.
Christ you’re hard headed.
So you consider Maryland an "excellent HC position?"
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:19 pm to SidewalkTiger
Speaking of moving goals posts.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:20 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Sidewalk is being pedantic about a simple observation on the likelihood of Alabama coordinators getting head coaching opportunities.
But aren't we debating whether Rees should take a HC opportunity? Why has this debate shifted to whether Alabama assistants get HC offers, in general, now? That isn't even arguable. And for the sake of this hypothetical, if Rees already has a HC offer, why is it relevant whether other assistants have also gotten offers?
Shouldn't the context matter as well as where these offers were and whether coaches had steps in between being at Alabama and eventually landing at a good HC job? Smart and Pruitt are really the only assistants Saban has ever had go from zero head coaching experience straight into a big time P5 HC job that I can think of. Are there others?
Looking at Saban's coaching tree, the majority of his assistants go from Alabama to another non-HC roles elsewhere, to a G5 HC job, or to a smaller P5 HC job. Northwestern HC would fall into that category. Rees may turn out to be the next big thing, or he could be a flop. Coaching at Alabama isn't inherently going to serve a good P5 job on a platter to him. It typically takes a ton of years as an excellent coordinator, prior HC experience, or a very unique situation to go from coordinator to a big time P5 job. That's just how the coaching profession works.
This post was edited on 7/11/23 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:23 pm to RollTide1987
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Depends on if you take the words "year, or two" literally - but it's pretty close to spot on.
Jim McElwain landed at Florida, Lane Kiffin is now at Ole Miss, and Steve Sarkisian is the head coach of Texas. And then you have coordinators like Jimbo Fisher (Florida State & Texas A&M) who worked for him prior to coming to Alabama.
And let's not forget Nick Saban's longtime defensive coordinator, Kirby Smart, who is at present the head coach of Georgia.
The comment was about Alabama, not Saban so Jimbo is out.
McElwain went to Colorado State from Alabama, wouldn't really consider that an excellent HC position. He was also a coordinator at Alabama for longer than two years.
Ditto for Kiffin as he went to FAU.
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an elite program that puts their coordinators, one after the other, into excellent HC positions within a year, or two.
Is simply not factual.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:25 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Speaking of moving goals posts.
That was part of the original comment I replied to:
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an elite program that puts their coordinators, one after the other, into excellent HC positions within a year, or two.
Stating that Maryland doesn't fit that criteria isn't really moving goalposts.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:26 pm to SidewalkTiger
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So you consider Maryland an "excellent HC position?"
Better than Northwestern
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:26 pm to SidewalkTiger
Alabama’s last five OCs are now the head coach at Ole Miss, the New York Giants, Maryland, Texas, and the New England Patriots OC. Is that a more factual statement for you?
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:28 pm to Captain Crown
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Shep Rose a man of the people
Hope he's been able to maintain a stable RelationShep
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:30 pm to Bama Bird
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Better than Northwestern
is it?
They've had 7 winning seasons the past 20 years. Northwestern has had 9. They're both cellar dweller Big 10 teams and stepping stone type of jobs
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:34 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Is simply not factual.
Oh. So we're really doing this? Okay then...
All it takes is one example to make it factual. Steve Sarkisian went to Texas after two years at Alabama.
So it is factual.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:35 pm to RollTide1987
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All it takes is one example to make it factual. Steve Sarkisian went to Texas after two years at Alabama.
So it is factual.
Well no, because:
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an elite program that puts their coordinators, one after the other, into excellent HC positions within a year, or two.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:35 pm to RollTide1987
I gave three names.
But now it’s a discussion of whether Maryland is a good job or not.
But now it’s a discussion of whether Maryland is a good job or not.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:36 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Alabama’s last five OCs are now the head coach at Ole Miss, the New York Giants, Maryland, Texas, and the New England Patriots OC. Is that a more factual statement for you?
That's all the corch had to say, not sure why you're getting bent out of shape.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:37 pm to SidewalkTiger
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one after the other
But Locksley and Sarkisian were one after the other.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:37 pm to JetDawg
Lets hope not
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:40 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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But Locksley and Sarkisian were one after the other.
Maryland isn't an "excellent head coaching position."
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an elite program that puts their coordinators, one after the other, into excellent HC positions within a year, or two.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 1:40 pm to SidewalkTiger
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not sure why you're getting bent out of shape.
We both just spent three pages arguing semantics. If anything you’re bent out of shape as well.
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