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Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:45 pm to TigerLunatik
Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:45 pm to TigerLunatik
my original point is being in south, especially deeper south, is an advantage for recruiting and given all the gushing over SEC, this seems to be the case.
the majority of games a SEC team plays are not against Alabama level competition. lol
the majority of games a SEC team plays are not against Alabama level competition. lol
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 7:47 pm
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Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:46 pm to Tillman
This is your statement....
Now you're telling me how hard it is to recruit because the states cannibalize each other.
BTW, the last two classes LSU had had had very few Louisiana players.
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is easier to recruit in the south
Now you're telling me how hard it is to recruit because the states cannibalize each other.
BTW, the last two classes LSU had had had very few Louisiana players.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:47 pm to TigerLunatik
my comment about south is relative to rest of country.
it is easier to recruit at LSU relative to NC b/c there's only one viable program.
LSU has two big advantages so it it not surprising they have a high win percentage. i'm just pointing out it isn't a big accomplishment as you claimed.
it is easier to recruit at LSU relative to NC b/c there's only one viable program.
LSU has two big advantages so it it not surprising they have a high win percentage. i'm just pointing out it isn't a big accomplishment as you claimed.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:53 pm to Tillman
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my comment about south is relative to rest of country.
it is easier to recruit at LSU relative to NC b/c there's only one viable program.
Your comment didn't specify LSU at all....
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the counter argument is it is easier to recruit in the south at the big universities so it isn't really a big accomplishment to win a lot.
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LSU has two big advantages so it it not surprising they have a high win percentage.
So bordering states can impact ACC recruiting, but not LSU recruiting? Players from Louisiana go to other schools all the time and LSU does very well recruiting nationally. You're all over the place.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:54 pm to TigerLunatik
so you are saying that it would be easier to recruit at LSU if you had one or more major state rivals.
lol
my point has been consistent, it is easier to recruit at LSU than most places for two reasons.
why can't you admit LSU has an advantage in recruiting. I admit that for Clemson relative to most colleges.
Part of it is not just about recruiting in state but attracting out of state recruits b/c of warmer climate.
lol
my point has been consistent, it is easier to recruit at LSU than most places for two reasons.
why can't you admit LSU has an advantage in recruiting. I admit that for Clemson relative to most colleges.
Part of it is not just about recruiting in state but attracting out of state recruits b/c of warmer climate.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:57 pm to Tillman
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my original point is being in south, especially deeper south, is an advantage for recruiting and given all the gushing over SEC, this seems to be the case.
Players in the southeast go to SEC schools because SEC schools win a lot more and have invested more into their programs. That doesn’t make it less impressive. They didn’t get that way through sheer happenstance. And it hasn’t always been that way, so clearly our programs did something to get the reputation they have now. LSU used to lose top recruits to teams like FSU, Miami, Michigan, USC, Texas, etc all the time.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:58 pm to lsufball19
they invested more in their programs b/c it pays off if you in a good recruiting area. you getting cause and effect flipped homey
it wouldn't make sense for the Uni of New Hampshire to invest a lot in football b/c it isn't a good recruiting area plus people dont want to be outside in the fall due to colder weather.
it wouldn't make sense for the Uni of New Hampshire to invest a lot in football b/c it isn't a good recruiting area plus people dont want to be outside in the fall due to colder weather.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:58 pm to paperwasp
Yea because they play in the SEC
Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:59 pm to Tillman
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it wouldn't make sense for the Uni of New Hampshire to invest a lot in football.
Well they don’t have an FBS team so no it wouldn’t. Louisiana, Alabama, and Mississippi are tiny states. Spare me they have more players to choose from. They just make sure they keep them where they are while most of the northeast invests their energy in the NFL
Posted on 4/29/20 at 8:01 pm to Tillman
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so you are saying that it would be easier to recruit at LSU if you had one or more major state rivals
Jesus Christ you are stupid.
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my point has been consistent, it is easier to recruit at LSU than most places for two reasons.
Except you didn't specify LSU at all, you said "at the big universities."
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why can't you admit LSU has an advantage in recruiting
I never said that we didn't. You are using excuses for other schools that can also apply to LSU.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 8:01 pm to lsufball19
Missippii doesn't have much to talk about regarding football. lol
Posted on 4/29/20 at 8:01 pm to Tillman
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Missippii doesn't have much to talk about regarding football. lol
So let’s just ignore Louisiana and Alabama
Bottom line, there are plenty of schools across the country with ample resources. They just don’t use them to their advantage like the SEC does
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 4/29/20 at 8:06 pm to Tillman
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Both Boise St and Oregon are really isolated schools in areas with few black kids. Oregon is knowing for dreary rainy weather.
If being right north of one of the best recruiting hot beds in the us (California) is isolated then count me in. Don’t give me this Oregon pitty shite. Not only are they next to California but they have more money than most schools in America because of Phil Knight and they play in the weakest power 5 conference in college football.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 8:08 pm to lsufball19
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let’s just ignore Louisiana and Alabama
Only schools in the ACC recruit bordering states apparently and cannibalize each other.
I did a really quick count and it looks like LSU has about 15 kids from Louisiana out of the last two classes and both were ranked in the top ten. Last year's was top 5 and we only had 6 from Louisiana I believe.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 9:16 pm to TigerLunatik
why can't you say something true, LSU has an advantage in recruiting relative to most colleges b/c of its location and state situation.
what's the worst thing that will happen if u admit that
everybody understand recruiting is most of the battle.
what's the worst thing that will happen if u admit that
everybody understand recruiting is most of the battle.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 4/29/20 at 9:21 pm to TexasTiger88
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if being right north of one of the best recruiting hot beds in the us (California) is isolated then count me in. Don’t give me this Oregon pitty shite. Not only are they next to California but they have more money than most schools in America because of Phil Knight and they play in the weakest power 5 conference in college football.
Eugene is 8.5 hours from San Fran by car. If you fly you most likely go to Portland and drive 1.5 hour down to Eugene. It's pretty isolated homey.
You wouldn't describe a school 8.5 hours from the southeast as in good position to recruit southeastern kids. lol
and can't see average kid from sunny south California wanting to go to rainy Oregon.
lot of people say ACC is worst but then a lot say PAC 12 and Big 10 are the worst. So that means ACC is essentially tied for 3rd best conference and probably has best case for 3rd with playoff rep every season yet Clemson always gets slonged for playing in it.
if being 8.5 hours from San Fran is a big selling point for Eugene, wouldn't that mean California schools would have big recruiting advantage over Oregon yet they don't. lol That's what makes it impressive even taking into consideration the Nike angle.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 4/29/20 at 9:25 pm to Tillman
What have I said that wasn't true? LSU does have some built in advantages. But, for about the third time, you didn't specify only LSU. Then you said that...
But you want to include ECU and App State in one post then UCF and South Alabama in another as poaching recruits. You're only applying logic to a certain number of instances.
Did you or did you not say this?
So, why can't Miss St, Ole Miss, Southern Miss, Arkansas, Houston, etc poach LSU recruits? Also, again, LSU hasn't even recruited Louisiana that heavily the last two years and have still had elite classes.
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Missippii doesn't have much to talk about regarding football.
But you want to include ECU and App State in one post then UCF and South Alabama in another as poaching recruits. You're only applying logic to a certain number of instances.
Did you or did you not say this?
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ACC has 4 colleges located near each other in NC with App State and East Carolina getting a lot of good in state talent as well. obviously Clemson, SC, Va Tech etc poach a lot of NC recruits too.
So, why can't Miss St, Ole Miss, Southern Miss, Arkansas, Houston, etc poach LSU recruits? Also, again, LSU hasn't even recruited Louisiana that heavily the last two years and have still had elite classes.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 9:28 pm to TigerLunatik
you are missing the in state angle. A lot of kids only want to go in state to stay near family and friends and b/c they grew up fans of a state college.
it seems logical that the NC colleges cannibalize each other in recruiting more so than Louisian colleges where there is one big dawg.
you want to have that solid easy in state recruiting base if the goal is to win natties.
i guarantee you if Wake and Duke moved to one of the basketball only conferences, UNC and NC State recruiting would pick up and overall excitement for ACC football would increase.
it seems logical that the NC colleges cannibalize each other in recruiting more so than Louisian colleges where there is one big dawg.
you want to have that solid easy in state recruiting base if the goal is to win natties.
i guarantee you if Wake and Duke moved to one of the basketball only conferences, UNC and NC State recruiting would pick up and overall excitement for ACC football would increase.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 4/29/20 at 9:35 pm to Tillman
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A lot of kids only want to go in state to stay near family and friends and b/c they grew up fans of a state college.
But, at the same time you're saying that this doesn't happen at other schools. Other states come into Louisiana all the time and get players. It happens just like LSU has gone to other states the last 2 years. Only 15 out of 50 players are from Louisiana and both were elite classes. You really are all over the place.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 9:36 pm to TigerLunatik
lol, no I'm not.
would it be easier or harder to recruit LSU in state if Clemson was in state.
keep in mind Travis ETN grew up on your campus and CLemson got him late after their first choice had academic issues
would it be easier or harder to recruit LSU in state if Clemson was in state.
keep in mind Travis ETN grew up on your campus and CLemson got him late after their first choice had academic issues
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 9:37 pm
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