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Coaching dollars per win

Posted on 12/16/16 at 8:56 am
Posted by Dawgholio
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 8:56 am
Freeze is just stealing money
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Posted by craigbiggio
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 8:58 am to
Dak should be getting a portion of Dan's salary
Posted by dmjones
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 9:08 am to
Derek Mason, Vanderbilt $426,146 6-6
Will Muschamp, South Carolina $500,416 6-6
Mark Stoops, Kentucky $501,943 7-5
Butch Jones, Tennessee $513,750 8-4
Jim McElwain, Florida $533,541 8-4
Nick Saban, Alabama $533,800 13-0
Kirby Smart, Georgia $536,229 7-5
Barry Odom, Missouri $587,500 4-8
Gus Malzahn, Auburn $591,188 8-4
Bret Bielema, Arkansas $592,143 7-5
Kevin Sumlin, Texas A&M $625,000 8-4
Les Miles, LSU* $626,510 7-4
Dan Mullen, Mississippi State $840,000 5-7
Hugh Freeze, Ole Miss $940,700 5-7

Ole Miss and State, y u so dum?
This post was edited on 12/16/16 at 9:09 am
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 9:11 am to
In a sport where people make the most simplistic and ridiculous analysis based on "statistics", this ratio may possibly be the dumbest.
Posted by rockiee
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 9:19 am to
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In a sport where people make the most simplistic and ridiculous analysis based on "statistics", this ratio may possibly be the dumbest.


Not to mention that contracts aren't one year deals
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 9:20 am to
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Freeze is just stealing money
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Also, proof Harbaugh is overpaid. Any coach with that salary is overpaid.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12511 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 9:22 am to
Damn Saban needs a raise. Most of the bottom 7 are on the hot seat . I bet Muschamp was on the other side of that list at UF and will work his way to the middle of the list at USC.

This post was edited on 12/16/16 at 11:59 am
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 9:24 am to
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Not to mention that contracts aren't one year deals


If you look at this Dan Mullen is overpaid and is terrible at his job for the salary he makes.

Ignore that he lost all his best players and was clearly in a rebuilding year this year, one in which his team will finish the year 4-2 over their last 6 if they win their bowl and 6-7 overall in a division in which they are less talented than everyone they play. And that he is being mentioned as a target by NFL teams for jobs, and that he is 60-42 and 29-35 at Mississippi State over 8 years, an 8 year period in which the SEC West has been the best it has ever been and the best in football.

Yep.
This post was edited on 12/16/16 at 9:25 am
Posted by UAtide11
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:06 am to
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Freeze is just stealing money


He should be required to coach in a ski mask
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:10 am to
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Freeze is just stealing money


Except for the fact that he took over a program that was averaging 2 wins a season and led them to 7, 8, 9, 10 wins in his first 4 years. So, yea they had a bad year this year, but that is only a bad year because of the expectations built off of the wins he accumulated in the previous 4 years.

So is he really overpaid?
This post was edited on 12/16/16 at 10:14 am
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:12 am to
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Derek Mason, Vanderbilt $426,146 6-6


Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:13 am to
VA's coach is stealing money.
1.6 million per win
Posted by UAtide11
Member since Apr 2014
2190 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:13 am to
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Brian Kelly, Notre Dame $406,183 4-8


How in the world does Notre Dame only pay their coach $1.625m per year?

UConn, UCF, Memphis, and Navy all pay better
Posted by fareplay
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:15 am to
This tells me that talent>>> coaching
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:15 am to
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VA's coach is stealing money. 1.6 million per win


He is a 1st year coach who took over a program that went 35-62 over the last 8 seasons and 11-25 the last 3.
Posted by UAtide11
Member since Apr 2014
2190 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:16 am to
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So is he really overpaid?


He makes more than Dabo, Dantonio, Petrino, Patterson, Peterson, and many more good coaches who've done more for longer. He's definitely overpaid.

It just doesn't look as bad, because Sumlin, Butch, Bielema, and Malzhan are all overpaid as well.
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:18 am to
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It just doesn't look as bad, because Sumlin, Butch, Bielema, and Malzhan are all overpaid as well.


Well, that's what the market is for a head coach in the SEC. If you are going to hire a current successful P5 coach or your current P5 coach just took you to your first Sugar Bowl in 30 years you are going to have to pay him accordingly. It's the market rate.
Posted by UAtide11
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:25 am to
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Well, that's what the market is for a head coach in the SEC. If you are going to hire a current successful P5 coach or your current P5 coach just took you to your first Sugar Bowl in 30 years you are going to have to pay him accordingly. It's the market rate.


I would wholeheartedly disagree with this. The market is vastly inflated because these ADs think that higher salaries beget higher success rates.

Then they get played by the coaches' agents. There is no reason Bielema should be making $4m. You don't have a protect a coach from getting poached when he's 6-6 every year.

Miles, Richt those guys earned $4m salaries. Sumlin, Malzahn, Freeze, McElwain, Mullen, Butch, Bert, Kirby, etc. were gifted those salaries by ADs who had more money than sense


And can we dispense with the "OM went to the Sugar Bowl!". It was the Sugar Bowl in name only. In years prior it would have been the cotton bowl, again. The same place Nutt got them, the same place Cutcliffe got them.
Posted by Nukeese
Member since Nov 2016
1269 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:27 am to
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Also, proof Harbaugh is overpaid. Any coach with that salary is overpaid.


Harbaugh has taken them from purgatory to playoff contenders in just 2 years. Hes easily worth it to UM imo
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:29 am to
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The market is vastly inflated because these ADs think that higher salaries beget higher success rates.


Why don't you get that it is a cycle that can't be broken. They all have to overpay because the others do as well

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There is no reason Bielema should be making $4m


Agreed

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You don't have a protect a coach from getting poached when he's 6-6 every year.


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