re: Chubb vs LF

Better pro potential. Just curious, but what are you basing this off of?

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Fournette also saw 8 in the box all year due to us having a shitshow of a passing game

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I rarely comment in this debate, but this is the dumbest argument LSU fans make on this subject. Did any of y'all actually watch UGA play last year? Every team loaded the box against UGA. Hutson Mason scared no one. Chubb (and Gurley and Michel) ran right into the teeth of 8 man fronts all year.

They just did it more effectively. Whether that was due to superior talent, superior blocking, or superior tactics is what you can debate.

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That never happened to Chubb and Hurd, never

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Again, I never said it didn't. But you can't deny that LSU had the worse QB situation between these 3 schools. I know UT struggled passing, but no one in the SEC struggled like LSU did. Go look at the numbers.

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Better pro potential. Just curious, but what are you basing this off of?

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Physical measurables and on both players style of running.

I'm not trying to knock Chubb because I think he is a beast but LF is built in the prototypical nfl rb mold

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Physical measurables and on both players style of running.

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Chubb's measurables are elite. So are Fournette's fwiw.

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Hutson Mason scared no one.

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Hutson Mason was considerably better than Anthony Jennings in (almost?) every statistical category for a QB.

Not rustled enough to post stats, but they are out there if you dispute that fact.

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Hutson Mason scared no one.

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there's a difference in not scaring anyone, and flat out not having to game plan against someone. Teams ran the simplest coverages vs Jennings all year. It was infuriating.

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How many carries did each have last year?

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Chubb - 219
LF - 187

Facts to consider in this debate:

UGA passed on 37% of plays and ran on 63%
LSU passed on 31% of plays and ran on 69%

Point: That's a difference, but not enough to say that teams didn't stack box against Chubb. If you're running 63% of the time - and you have Hutson Mason as your QB - teams are stacking the box.

What they meant to their teams:
Chubb - 46% of his team's rushing yards, 39% of his team's carries, and 37% of his team's rushing TDs.
LF - 35% of his team's rushing yards, 30% of his team's carries, and 40% of their rushing TDs.

Point: they were both heavily relied upon and the point could easily be made that UGA relied on Chubb more than LF (so stop the whole "he was our whole offense and teams stacked to stop him" argument...it applies more so to Chubb)

Finally, Chubb had 32 more carries and 513 more yards. LF would have had to average over 16 ypc on 32 additional carries just to match Chubb's production at RB. Chubb wins.

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Right, but when defenses are forced to make a choice, they still chose to stack the box against UGA. The fact that Mason was more capable of punishing them for that choice doesn't mean there were any less players near the line of scrimmage when they made that choice anyway. It just made UGA better at offense.

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Stacking the box has nothing to do with the plays that were called though. I guarantee that defenses had only 1 safety playing back WAYYYY more often than they did against us. I remember several occasions where the safeties didn't even pretend like they had zones to cover in the defensive backfield, they rushed up to the LOS like linebackers.

So the LSU explanation for Chubb outperforming LF is not that he is better, but that everyone around LF - the line, the QB, and the coaching - sucked?