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re: Cecil Hurt Says You're All Stupid or Scared
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:45 am to Pepe Lepew
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:45 am to Pepe Lepew
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Teague, thought you said you didn't want a rematch?
I did. But then every team with an argument shite the bed. And I'm tired of all the bullshite excuses LSU fans keep spewing on this board to keep Bama out.
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:47 am to Teague
quote:Only if the voters oblige. Your opinion is that they should put Bama at #2. But thats just like, your opinion man.
It does.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:47 am to Teague
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And I'm tired of all the bullshite excuses LSU fans keep spewing on this board to keep Bama out.
so a rematch is OK since your team is in it?
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:48 am to Schwaaz
Doen't matter what some of the fans think,I guarantee you LSU's players are not scared.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:49 am to Teague
quote:Let's look at both 2006 and 2007. A lot of UGA fans still think they were a better team than LSU. Sure, it's easy to say once the games are played, but no one really knows beforehand. The voters make their picks, they aren't obligated to vote any particular way.
Show me where history disagrees. I know you're not going to point to the Florida team that blew the buckeyes out. That wouldn't help your argument if you did.
In short, you are guaranteed of nothing. The voters will probably put y'all at 2. But they aren't breaking any "rules" if they don't.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:51 am to NaturalBeam
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Only if the voters oblige. Your opinion is that they should put Bama at #2. But thats just like, your opinion man.
Uh, no, based on what the BCS IS. The voters are SUPPOSED to be voting on the two best teams, as Cecil said.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:52 am to Teague
quote:And voters are human beings that all have subjective opinions. Not some machines that automatically determine who is #2. I don't understand why you can't understand this. Just b/c you or Cecil Hurt (whoever the F that is) don't think other teams have a legitimate argument to get in, doesn't mean that every voter agrees with you.
Uh, no, based on what the BCS IS. The voters are SUPPOSED to be voting on the two best teams, as Cecil said.
Just to play devil's advocate, who has Bama beaten, really?
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:54 am to Pepe Lepew
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so a rematch is OK since your team is in it?
Does that makes sense? You said, "I thought you were against a rematch" which implies that you know I previously said, that MY TEAM shouldn't play in a rematch. Wouldn't I have had to have said that some other team shouldn't be in a rematch for your argument to make sense?
If there were another team that looked like they might be as good as Bama, I'd say let them play, we don't deserve it, as I said previously. But now, there's not one of those teams.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:55 am to Teague
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The Every Other Agenda camp has two hurdles to overcome. First, the fact is the purpose of the BCS, since its inception, has been to match the two best teams in college football in a one-game championship.
Sorry, he's wrong about that... which means his entire article is baseless.
The stated purpose of the BCS is to match the two HIGHEST RANKED, not the two best. LINK
"Best" is entirely subjective. "Highest ranked" is not. Voters at their discretion can determine the highest ranked and they would not be violating any stated purpose of the BCS by giving a conference champion a shot over a team that already had theirs and didn't even win their own division.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:56 am to NaturalBeam
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And voters are human beings that all have subjective opinions.
And so far, they've all thought Bama was better than OSU. Will their "subjective opinion" suddenly change to avoid a rematch?
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Just to play devil's advocate, who has Bama beaten, really?
Every team on their schedule except the #1 ranked team in the country?
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:58 am to Teague
quote:With a big win over OU, some might. And some might change their opinions for any number of reasons, including not wanting to see a rematch. I know you think it's illegal and felonious for voters to vote that way, but it's not. That's why allowing voters to decide this is stupid in the first place.
And so far, they've all thought Bama was better than OSU. Will their "subjective opinion" suddenly change to avoid a rematch?
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:58 am to Teague
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Will their "subjective opinion" suddenly change to avoid a rematch?
very possible if okie lite wins
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Every team on their schedule except the #1 ranked team in the country?
nice dodge.i somehow doubt that was what he was looking for but you knew that did you not?
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:59 am to Rex
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to match the two HIGHEST RANKED, not the two best
So your argument is that voters shouldn't vote for the two best to be the two highest ranked? You think an OSU team that lost to Iowa State should be ranked ahead of Bama?
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:59 am to Teague
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And not a single one of you has or can dispute what Cecil has said.
I just did. His argument is based on a false premise. He's busted.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 11:00 am to Rex
quote:Yep - I've tried pointing this out all week but they won't accept it. Now, it usually works out that the 2 best are the 2 highest ranked, and it probably will this year, but who really knows without the benefit of hindsight after the bowl games are over?
The stated purpose of the BCS is to match the two HIGHEST RANKED, not the two best.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 11:00 am to Fat Bastard
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nice dodge.i somehow doubt that was what he was looking for but you knew that did you not?
I don't really want to get into the strength of schedule stuff. If I'm not mistaken, Bama's is ranked about 4 spots below OSU's.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 11:01 am to Teague
quote:Why did Bama fall to #3 after losing to LSU? Shouldn't they have just stayed at #2? Rankings =/= reality.
So your argument is that voters shouldn't vote for the two best to be the two highest ranked? You think an OSU team that lost to Iowa State should be ranked ahead of Bama?
Posted on 11/27/11 at 11:01 am to Teague
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So your argument is that voters shouldn't vote for the two best to be the two highest ranked?
My argument is that Cecil's stated purpose is wrong.
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You think an OSU team that lost to Iowa State should be ranked ahead of Bama?
For weeks one through eleven? No. For purposes of the BCS Championship game, absolutely.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 11:02 am to Rex
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I just did. His argument is based on a false premise. He's busted.
If you're going to make this argument, then you have to let Houston in. Are they they #2 team?
Posted on 11/27/11 at 11:03 am to Teague
quote:A lot of voters without a dog in the fight could also look to victories. OSU has more better wins than Bama does.
You think an OSU team that lost to Iowa State should be ranked ahead of Bama?
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