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re: Can we just admit this season was a perfect storm for LSU?
Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:17 pm to TigerLunatik
Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:17 pm to TigerLunatik
LSU really played some scoring machines last year loll
just b/c Florida, Auburn, UGA , Tenn, etc have had some good teams in the past doesn't mean the SEC was incredible last year.
just b/c Florida, Auburn, UGA , Tenn, etc have had some good teams in the past doesn't mean the SEC was incredible last year.
This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 2:19 pm
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:18 pm to Tillman
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LSU only won because of a once in 3 generations QB and home state advantage in title game.
this is awesome. like lsu didn't beat texas in austin, uga in atlanta, bama at bama. yeah, it was the dome that made the difference. lsu played great all season knowing they would play in the dome against clemson. bro, your team got freaking torched. if chase hadn't dropped that easy td catch, venables d would have given up half a hunerd.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:19 pm to bfniii
it was fricking satire hysterical sidewalk fan.
i was making fun of what losers like u said when Watson's Clemson team beat Alabama. once in a generation player
i was making fun of what losers like u said when Watson's Clemson team beat Alabama. once in a generation player
Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:20 pm to GetmorewithLes
quote:clemson had won 50 STRAIGHT when scoring first
We had to go through Tuscaloosa and a 41 game home win streak to get to the conf championship
Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:25 pm to Tillman
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LSU really played some scoring machines last year loll
We beat more teams that finished in the top 8 than you played in the top 25 and thar includes Ohio State. Get the frick out.
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:26 pm to Tillman
quote:you can't be serious. lsu has basically the best resume in the history of cfb, MAYBE with the exception of '95 neb, and you're saying they needed a better resume to get respect from you. well that's reasonable. lsu played a tougher schedule than '95 neb but neb had a higher margin of victory. two best resumes EVER. but lsu needed to also beat the team who had just lost to the team lsu obliterated.
I would have more respect for LSU if they beat both OSU and Clemson in playoffs and beat Alabama with a healthy Tua
quote:that ok team was the best available. lsu had already trashed everyone else. so you think that lsu would have had a tougher time beating the osu team that clemson had just beaten?
Playing that Oklahoma team in 1st round was like a bye
Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:28 pm to bfniii
I've never encountered a dumber fanbase than message board Clemson fans.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:28 pm to Tillman
quote:who did lsu NOT play that they needed to play? the jets? lsu torched the best teams at the end of the season when it counted the most.
just b/c Florida, Auburn, UGA , Tenn, etc have had some good teams in the past doesn't mean the SEC was incredible last year
this is the stupidest troll thread ever
Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:33 pm to Tillman
quote:it's hard to tell with the halfwits around here. i include clemson with osu, ok as non sec teams that can hang with the sec's best when it counts the most. clemson has proven they belong both on the field and in the draft.
i was making fun of what losers like u said when Watson's Clemson team beat Alabama
Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:38 pm to bfniii
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who did lsu NOT play that they needed to play?
The '85 Bears
Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:49 pm to RD Dawg
Apparently UGA can’t catch a football much less a lightning bolt 
LSU has made UGA its bitch the last 2 decades
LSU has made UGA its bitch the last 2 decades
Posted on 4/25/20 at 3:44 pm to LSUNV
Guess that high powered offensive machine UNC terrified the rest of the conference? What was that score? 14 - 13? Your toughest game was against the aggies. Who finished in the middle of the pack IN THEIR DIVISION.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 11:34 pm to BLG
quote:LSU was strong in the 1930's, dropped a bit in the 40's, picked back up in the 50's and pretty much stayed successful at a top 15 level until the 90's when they pretty much stunk. Their 1969 team would have had a shot at the national title in the Cotton Bowl against Texas had Notre Dame not decided to start playing bowl games. Their 1970 team was leading Nebraska in the fourth quarter in the 1971 Orange Bowl game where the winner might have earned the National title. Nebraska did come back and win and they were named number one. That's two teams right there that were very elite during a time frame you describe as not successful. Charlie Mac was a good recruiter, and a good coach but never could quite get LSU to the mountaintop. He, just like everyone else in the SEC had Bear Bryant to content with, much like everyone has to contend with Nick Saban these days.
And why was there so little relative success from the 1950's up till Nick Saban arrived there?
If you look at the records of all of the coaches from Paul Deitzel to Mike Archer, their combined record is 463-176-15, spanning the years 1955-1990. This is a winning record of 71.9%, which is very successful. That's a 35 year span of solid, top 15 level football.
Now, Curly Hallman at 16-28 teamed with the first few years of Gerry Dinardo represent the only true down cycle since the mid 1950's in LSU football. This happens to everyone at some time or other. Since Saban, Miles, and Orgeron have been LSU's coaches (2000-2019), the record is 202-59, winning 77.3% of their games, and winning three national championships, one-each.
Basically, LSU had a very good program for 35 years, a lousy one for 6 or so years, and a fantastic one for the past 19 years. They have been high level football for almost all of the past 60 years or so except for that six-year dip in the 1990's.
Posted on 4/26/20 at 4:06 am to 167back
Dale and Barmore were the two first teamer DL's and of course both line backers. Worse the play caller on defense was clue less. A converted DB. Frankly a big part of the problem was Saban. He, for all the acclaim, let the depth at those two critical spots go completely to zero. And then the injury disaster at you got it, those two "gotta have 'em positions. And he just slung some freshmen at it. Plus the S & C program had went to complete garbage (leading to injury and poor development) and he allowed it because of loyalty to the ex-coach.
We wound up depending on a big time offense to outscore everybody. Which worked til we got to LSU. And almost worked again but they got every beak known to man and won the game. No complaints, stuff happens. They deserved to win.
Then the final crusher was losing our QB and throwing a scout team level guy in against AU when we were a cinch to grab a playoff and a fresh start with a W. He, as the world knows, was responsible for a 21 point turnaround. Good kid but not an SEC QB.
We wound up depending on a big time offense to outscore everybody. Which worked til we got to LSU. And almost worked again but they got every beak known to man and won the game. No complaints, stuff happens. They deserved to win.
Then the final crusher was losing our QB and throwing a scout team level guy in against AU when we were a cinch to grab a playoff and a fresh start with a W. He, as the world knows, was responsible for a 21 point turnaround. Good kid but not an SEC QB.
Posted on 4/26/20 at 10:50 am to jimdog
Thought we were talking about TrFr starters on the front seven. barmore doesn't qualify for either one.
Who was the defensive play caller?
Where were all those 5* DL and LBs from all those #1 signing classes? Those '16, '17 and '18 classes. He did sign some in those classes, right?
Scout team level? OK. So the new signee is starter from day 1?
Who was the defensive play caller?
Where were all those 5* DL and LBs from all those #1 signing classes? Those '16, '17 and '18 classes. He did sign some in those classes, right?
Scout team level? OK. So the new signee is starter from day 1?
Posted on 4/26/20 at 8:17 pm to 167back
That was your first mistake, a La swamp creature thinking. We wee talking freshmen and Baremore was that along with Dale and both linebackers. Harris was the play caller responsible for lining up the buys in the right spot. Hell he was a converted DB and couldn't line himself up.
There were no "five star" defensive tackles in any of those classes and the only linebacker I can recall was Moses and he never played a down. It's on Saban not having a lick of depth at either of those two critical positions. And letting Cochran hang around too long based on loyalty. Saban admitted after recruiting this year that bringing in bigs had went south for a few years but he says the last two were much better. We'll see. Not only were we starting freshmen the top backups were freshmen too.
That's what happens when it gets too easy beating hell outta people, you get to thinking you ARE all that. But hey we lost one game and gave one away, no one else in America can get lazy, make bad mistakes and still come within an eyelash of going to the playoffs for ever how many years in a row with mostly freshmen bigs. We should, unless hell freezes over again and we lose a bunch of folks, be a bit more competitive up front if there even is a season this year. Congrats to LSU, you finally got good enough so that your best team ever squeezed by our worst in a long while and most beat up in my memory.
There were no "five star" defensive tackles in any of those classes and the only linebacker I can recall was Moses and he never played a down. It's on Saban not having a lick of depth at either of those two critical positions. And letting Cochran hang around too long based on loyalty. Saban admitted after recruiting this year that bringing in bigs had went south for a few years but he says the last two were much better. We'll see. Not only were we starting freshmen the top backups were freshmen too.
That's what happens when it gets too easy beating hell outta people, you get to thinking you ARE all that. But hey we lost one game and gave one away, no one else in America can get lazy, make bad mistakes and still come within an eyelash of going to the playoffs for ever how many years in a row with mostly freshmen bigs. We should, unless hell freezes over again and we lose a bunch of folks, be a bit more competitive up front if there even is a season this year. Congrats to LSU, you finally got good enough so that your best team ever squeezed by our worst in a long while and most beat up in my memory.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 3:19 pm to jimdog
Let me get this straight gump. baremore was a first teamer? Like in starter in '19? If that's the case then LSU is bringing back eight starters on "O" and another 13 on "D".
5* front seven signees from the '16 through '19 signing classes. ben davis, mack wilson, dylan moses, labryan ray, eyabl anoma and antonio alfano. so, don't tell me moses was the only one. wilson left early for nfl.
What happened to mathis, musika, allen, anoma, benton, davis, kaho and moody? These are scholarship players on the front seven. musika is a former walkon that was awarded a scholarship if I remember correctly. Anyway I saw where he was dales backup at NT. All those freshmen top backups beat all those guys out?
Who were the backups to wilson and moses in '18?
For all the bitchin tide nation did about lee could you explain. Here are lee's numbers from '19 (TrFr) compared to moses in '18 (soph). Which one is which? Remember moses played and started 15 games compared to 13 for lee.
player A - 86 tot tkls -- tfl 10 -- sks 3.5 -- 0 ints -- 1 PBU -- 1 QBH
player B - 86 tot tkls -- tfl 6.5 -- sks 4.5 -- 1 int -- 0 pbu -- 3 QBH
Don't see much difference in total production from those numbers. If you break it down to per game lee's are probably a little better.
5* front seven signees from the '16 through '19 signing classes. ben davis, mack wilson, dylan moses, labryan ray, eyabl anoma and antonio alfano. so, don't tell me moses was the only one. wilson left early for nfl.
What happened to mathis, musika, allen, anoma, benton, davis, kaho and moody? These are scholarship players on the front seven. musika is a former walkon that was awarded a scholarship if I remember correctly. Anyway I saw where he was dales backup at NT. All those freshmen top backups beat all those guys out?
Who were the backups to wilson and moses in '18?
For all the bitchin tide nation did about lee could you explain. Here are lee's numbers from '19 (TrFr) compared to moses in '18 (soph). Which one is which? Remember moses played and started 15 games compared to 13 for lee.
player A - 86 tot tkls -- tfl 10 -- sks 3.5 -- 0 ints -- 1 PBU -- 1 QBH
player B - 86 tot tkls -- tfl 6.5 -- sks 4.5 -- 1 int -- 0 pbu -- 3 QBH
Don't see much difference in total production from those numbers. If you break it down to per game lee's are probably a little better.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 5:20 pm to 167back
You need to stick to pimping your half sister from another dad swamp rat. Davis was a courtesy sign because of his father and never played and is no longer on the team. Somebody may have rated him a 5 because of his dad but he was 4 on most ratings. Wilson left early for the NFL. And was a 4. Moses never played a down, hurt in last practice before first game. Ray went down for the year in game 2 but he was mostly a 4. Anoma left the team in his freshman year when he discovered he would have to go to classes. Alfano did the exact same thing. So I'm telling you again asshat there was not a single 5 fricking star player at the position I mentioned, the defensive down linemen. You dumasses don't know down linemen from pass rushing ends and linebackes. Get an education in something other than cockfighting and get back to me. In fact there was not a single 5 star front seven player on the available roster. Now go back to fighting roosters and pimping.
Edit to say Wilson was also a 4 star.
Edit to say Wilson was also a 4 star.
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 4/27/20 at 7:37 pm to jimdog
Hey YON you said the only 5* that you remember saban signing on front seven was moses. What's wrong you got that alltimers disease? Can't remember what you posted? I named you six that lil nicky signed in four year time frame. What's the problem the midget can't coach his super talent or recruit high character kids?
Hey gross CHU. The tide signed THREE 247 composite 5*s in the '16 class.
BEN DAVIS - #13 player nationally and #1 player in alabama. AL.com super all state and defensive MVP
LYNDELL "mack" WILSON - ranked #2 OLB in the country by 247.
ray started first three games so how could he be lost for season in game two? ray was a 247 composite 5* in the '17 class. He was the #1 SDE and #26 player nationally. The #1 player in alabama.
You are familiar with the recruiting term 247 composite. Right? I've heard for years from the mighty tide nation that's the only number that counts in recruiting nothing else.
now you go back to tapping that GROSS CHU of your momma/sister.
Hey gross CHU. The tide signed THREE 247 composite 5*s in the '16 class.
BEN DAVIS - #13 player nationally and #1 player in alabama. AL.com super all state and defensive MVP
LYNDELL "mack" WILSON - ranked #2 OLB in the country by 247.
ray started first three games so how could he be lost for season in game two? ray was a 247 composite 5* in the '17 class. He was the #1 SDE and #26 player nationally. The #1 player in alabama.
You are familiar with the recruiting term 247 composite. Right? I've heard for years from the mighty tide nation that's the only number that counts in recruiting nothing else.
now you go back to tapping that GROSS CHU of your momma/sister.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 9:31 pm to 167back
I Know swamp education is bad but frick, reading is pretty universal these days. Jump back rocket scientist and re-read my post. Then tell me what "defensive tackles" means to you. Not front seven egg head, defensive frigging tackles! Your ignorance almost makes me feel guilty taking you to task...almost.
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