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Posted on 9/17/17 at 1:45 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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They made initial contact with their helmet to the qb's facemask in the act of throwing. Are you saying the contact wasn't "forcible"?
face masks can touch. it's about where the force was delivered. with #92 it was clearly delivered to the chest and not the head or the neck.
with the other clip i'm saying that the LSU defender absolutely did not take aim at his opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact. evidenced by the fact that he clearly lets up
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 9/17/17 at 1:45 pm to 56lsu
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if anything msu should have been called for holding on the play
You can call holding on almost every play in college football, however....he was referring to the two targeting calls and the PI call. they looked correct.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 1:46 pm to 56lsu
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both but mostly the second db as the receiver was trying to run thru them
You can't be this retarded.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 1:47 pm to bmy
If a Bama player hits Etling the exact same way you'll go apeshit.
Such a hypocrite you are
Such a hypocrite you are
Posted on 9/17/17 at 1:47 pm to bmy
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The ejection on 92
I'll give you that 92 is definitely the less aggregious, but his hands push from Fitgerald's shoulders + helmet to helmet contact is made.
Where exactly was he "taking aim" at if not the neck/helemt area?
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Clearly that wasn't the case in either of these situations.
So lowering the crown of your helmet then hitting the opposing QB in the facemask is not taking aim how exactly?
Posted on 9/17/17 at 1:47 pm to bmy
i just went and rewatched the first one is 100% leading with his head into the neck / facemask.
the second one was a bit closer, and regardless of his intent, he led with his helmet and hit the qb in the head.
the second one was a bit closer, and regardless of his intent, he led with his helmet and hit the qb in the head.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 1:49 pm to bmy
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face masks can touch. it's about where the force was delivered
Nope.
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Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
Facemasks are part of the helmet and in the "Neck/Shoulder" area.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 1:50 pm to bmy
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face masks can touch. it's about where the force was delivered. with #92 it was clearly delivered to the chest and not the head or the neck.
Here is the portion of the rule that was violated:
Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
Their helmet had forcible contact with the "head or neck area". Hey, I like LSU, but this is the rule. I understand you are upset with the way your team got beat. I would feel the same, but the calls, in my opinion, were correct. There is no grand conspiracy against LSU.
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Actually, these other two apply, as well:
Launch—a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area
A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 9/17/17 at 1:51 pm to GenesChin
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I'll give you that 92 is definitely the less aggregious, but his hands push from Fitgerald's shoulders + helmet to helmet contact is made.
Where exactly was he "taking aim" at if not the neck/helemt area?
at the shoulders/chest area. clearly not the neck. clearly a horrible call and i won't be surprised when the suspension is lifted. he won't get an apology though.
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So lowering the crown of your helmet then hitting the opposing QB in the facemask is not taking aim how exactly?
did he attack with forcible contact or did he let up? it can't be both. i think he clearly let up. he did put his facemask in the QBs face mask and a roughing the passer penalty is fine
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 9/17/17 at 1:52 pm to bmy
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did he attack with forcible contact or did he let up? it can't be both
It absolutely can be both.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 1:53 pm to bmy
As sure as the sun will rise, LSU will refuse to slap a band aid on its bleeding pussy and cry like the menstruating women that they are.
Pitiful
Pitiful
Posted on 9/17/17 at 1:54 pm to TheTideMustRoll
Not reading this entire thread. LSU WR picked two players knocking one of them to the ground and the ref didn't hesitate to call it. He was pulling the flag immediately as the DB hit the ground before he could even see the play was going to result in a TD without the call. It was the right call.
Both targeting calls were correct. Launching your helmet into Fitz's helmet gets you kicked out of the game. They review these plays on purpose for butthurt fans like the OP. On the second one the LSU DL starts to act/flop like he fell into Fitz but it's clear as day he is trying to get away with a dirty play.
Seemed obvious that the LSU defense decided to try to get Fitz knocked out of the game instead of just using all those recruiting stars they earned to stop him on the field legally.
Careful how you act after this loss LSU. The entire SEC is watching how you take getting your arse kicked and some of you like the OP are not representing your school and fanbase very well right now.
MSU fans spent two weeks warning you what was coming. We told you you fricked up when you hired Orgeron as your HC and you didn't want to listen. We told you our defense was nasty with Grantham and you didn't want to listen. We told you Fitz has become a totally different QB from his first ever road game last year which was LSU and you didn't want to listen. We told you Simmons was really fricking good and you didn't want to listen.
Now here is me telling you ONCE AGAIN that LSU is falling into the same trap that Ole Miss fell into. Don't become Ole Miss please. Choose the other path. The hard working right way one. Not the butthurt way that will do anything to win so you don't have to endure arse beat downs like you just took last night.
Carry on
Both targeting calls were correct. Launching your helmet into Fitz's helmet gets you kicked out of the game. They review these plays on purpose for butthurt fans like the OP. On the second one the LSU DL starts to act/flop like he fell into Fitz but it's clear as day he is trying to get away with a dirty play.
Seemed obvious that the LSU defense decided to try to get Fitz knocked out of the game instead of just using all those recruiting stars they earned to stop him on the field legally.
Careful how you act after this loss LSU. The entire SEC is watching how you take getting your arse kicked and some of you like the OP are not representing your school and fanbase very well right now.
MSU fans spent two weeks warning you what was coming. We told you you fricked up when you hired Orgeron as your HC and you didn't want to listen. We told you our defense was nasty with Grantham and you didn't want to listen. We told you Fitz has become a totally different QB from his first ever road game last year which was LSU and you didn't want to listen. We told you Simmons was really fricking good and you didn't want to listen.
Now here is me telling you ONCE AGAIN that LSU is falling into the same trap that Ole Miss fell into. Don't become Ole Miss please. Choose the other path. The hard working right way one. Not the butthurt way that will do anything to win so you don't have to endure arse beat downs like you just took last night.
Carry on
Posted on 9/17/17 at 1:56 pm to bmy
quote:Every hit in every football game involves letting up. What you do before that is what matters to the referees
did he attack with forcible contact or did he let up? it can't be both.
In this case, he attacked with forcible contact before he let up
Good call that won't even garner discussion outside of sad little LSU fans
Posted on 9/17/17 at 1:56 pm to bmy
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bumping another player is now being called "not that hard of a hit" and gets you ejected?
I didn't make the rules.. you need focus your anger towards the oaches for not properly teaching the defensive player to not make contact to the head with their helmet. He did launch his body in the air... Again, wasn't a hard hit but still gonna get called.
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he is allowed to run his route. it's a standard wheel route. the miss st DB can't tackle him like he did, though.
Except that's not what happened and only a Homersheep fan would say so. The WR purposefully ran into the db to block him from coverage allowing 7 to run free, classic pick play.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 1:56 pm to DawgsLife
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Here is the portion of the rule that was violated:
Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
Their helmet had forcible contact with the "head or neck area". Hey, I like LSU, but this is the rule. I understand you are upset with the way your team got beat. I would feel the same, but the calls, in my opinion, were correct. There is no grand conspiracy against LSU.
ETA
Actually, these other two apply, as well:
Launch—a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area
A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground
Thankfully, you have to violate more than just a portion of the rule. It is all or nothing. There has to be an indicator of targeting that includes the following:
Note 1: “Targeting” means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 9/17/17 at 1:58 pm to bmy
Keep crying snowflake
Posted on 9/17/17 at 1:59 pm to bmy
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did he attack with forcible contact or did he let up? it can't be both
Doesn't matter if you "let up" if the action still occurs.
If you "let up" but still end up hitting a guy out of bounds it is still a late hit, even if the force wasn't as bad as it could have been
Posted on 9/17/17 at 1:59 pm to bmy
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Note 1: “Targeting” means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact
That happened.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 1:59 pm to JuiceTerry
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Every hit in every football game involves letting up. What you do before that is what matters to the referees
In this case, he attacked with forcible contact before he let up
Except that he didn't.
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Good call that won't even garner discussion outside of sad little LSU fans
Because the bigger story is a 30 point arse beating delivered by MSU
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