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re: Can someone ask the REC refs why this wasn’t flagged for targeting?

Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:29 pm to
Posted by SouthlakeTiger
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:29 pm to
[quote]I) Note 1: “Targeting” means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to: • Launch A player leaving their feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area • A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground • Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area • Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet[/

You really are a dumbass.
This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 6:31 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:30 pm to
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you called that forcible?


Yes. He crouched and initiated contact with the crown of the helmet. It’s forcible, even if it’s a poor tackle.

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I mean he literally is standing still at the time of impact.


His feet may be, but his upper body is clearly not.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:31 pm to
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You really are a dumbass.


Clearly.

Which part of the rule are you confused about?
Posted by Rohan Gravy
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:32 pm to
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Dallas turner’s was intentional to injure and not a football play.



Little nicky coaches it
Posted by SouthlakeTiger
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:32 pm to
Not confused because launching is an element of the rule. You say it is not.

Again you are just a dumbass troll.
Posted by Nutriaitch
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:34 pm to
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you called that forcible?


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Yes.



then you are a pussy

the definition of "forcible" is vigorous and strong

that hit definitely was not
Posted by Dawgs9
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:34 pm to
And there in lies the problem. If a defensive player lowers his head, then he’s called for targeting. But when an offensive player lowers his head it’s not, why is that? It’s the same damn thing. I would like to see the targeting call done away with, have always thought it was a bullshite rule
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:36 pm to
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Not confused because launching is an element of the rule. You say it is not.


You are very confused. Launching is only one possible indicator. There is a whole list of indicators. Did you miss this part?

quote:

This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting…

Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:



Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet



Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:39 pm to
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that hit definitely was not


How do you know? This rule is in place for the defender more than it is for the ball carrier in this instance. I’d say there was certainly forcible contact. Just because the defender got the worst of it doesn’t change the rule.
Posted by Nutriaitch
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:45 pm to
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How do you know? This rule is in place for the defender more than it is for the ball carrier in this instance. I’d say there was certainly forcible contact. Just because the defender got the worst of it doesn’t change the rule.


the rule says the player has to "attack", not let the play come to him.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:59 pm to
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the rule says the player has to "attack", not let the play come to him.


He attacks by lowering his head. That’s the problem.
Posted by Nutriaitch
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:12 pm to
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He attacks by lowering his head. That’s the problem.




you can also attack with the shoulder, so I guess every single tackle now needs to be targeting
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:18 pm to
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you can also attack with the shoulder, so I guess every single tackle now needs to be targeting


No, the rule, while stupid as shite, is clearly outlined. In this case, the primary indicator his the lowering of his head to initiate contact with the crown of his helmet. This part of the rule is designed to protect the defender.

Ryan Shazier of the Steelers is a good example of why this part of the rule is in place.

Posted by Nutriaitch
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:25 pm to
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No, the rule, while stupid as shite, is clearly outlined. In this case, the primary indicator his the lowering of his head to initiate contact with the crown of his helmet. This part of the rule is designed to protect the defender.



but lowering the head alone is not an indicator.

it says to attack forcibly.
and it even says lower helmet AND attack forcibly, meaning they are 2 separate actions from each other.
standing there and letting a hit come to you is not an attack.
and definitely doesn't fit the forcibly aspect.

Posted by Jumpinjack
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:28 pm to
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pathetic


Most LSU posters.
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:35 pm to
OP = R Tard
Posted by 1loyalbamafan
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:42 pm to
c'mon man...stick to fuk aubrn.

Most of us can agree with that.

and it's fuk'd up because a runningback will lower his head and destroy a quality DB.

That's why people say "he made a career decision" when a db doesn't stand straight up with a running-back going full steam ahead.
This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 7:47 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:50 pm to
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standing there and letting a hit come to you is not an attack. and definitely doesn't fit the forcibly aspect.


If that’s what he was doing, he wouldn’t have crouched and lowered his head. He was attempting to hit Milroe, and did so with the crown of his helmet. The contact being “forcible” is rather subjective.

The most important part of the rule is here:

quote:

When in question, it is a foul.


I think the fact that we are having to sit here arguing about what the word “forcible” means as it applies to this tackle - because the crown of the helmet was clearly lowered and used - satisfies the requirement above.
This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 7:51 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:51 pm to
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OP = R Tard


Stop it.
Posted by s2
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:59 pm to
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Should’ve been. When I played, the coaches always stressed to see what you hit. Tackling like the video above is a good way to break your neck



WHAT VIDEO?



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