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re: Can Georgia becomes the Alabama of the east?
Posted on 7/2/18 at 2:39 pm to Irons Puppet
Posted on 7/2/18 at 2:39 pm to Irons Puppet
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The only reason to have a Committee is to select 4 out of 5 Champions to play in a playoff.
This is obviously incorrect as that si not what has happened the past two years. We have a pretty clear picture that what you are saying is incorrect.
quote:Sure we do. We have bowl games and the playoffs.
Your pool argument supports my thinking. Again, you claim on league is the toughest, but we have no evidence to prove it.
quote:Agreed that the rules are ill-defined to us, but seem pretty clear to the committee.
There are no rules, just the judgement of 12 people. A smaller pool of people selecting means a greater chance of bias. Again, the Playoffs have become the NIT.
But, since the NIT does not crown a consensus National Champion in basketball, I would say you are wrong.
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 2:43 pm to Irons Puppet
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The injuries to LB didn’t effect the DLs inability to get to Stidham or the DBs inability to cover the WRs.
Actually it does. if you don't understand how then there is no way of proving it to you. Surely you realize how LB's are brought in on blitzes to pressure the QB, or if a stud LB is out there the OLine feels more pressure to reach the next level to throw a block?
And if a LB is pressuring Stidham, he has less time to find an open receiver...or for the receiver to get open. Just look at the second half of the SECCG to see the effect of LB's on rushing the passer or giving receivers time to get open.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 2:48 pm to DawgsLife
Honestly, best thing that could've happened for Bama and UGA was losing that Auburn game. It affected neither in terms of the season and got Malzahn a freaking contract that should hold him there for some time no matter how average he is.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 2:48 pm to jvilletiger25
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Name me one team that did not make the playoffs that was better than Alabama
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jvilletiger25
Syracuse beat clemson last year. Does that mean they're a better team than Clemson or they were just better that day?
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 7/2/18 at 2:51 pm to Irons Puppet
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Irons Puppet
Bama didn't lose because of injuries, but their back 7 was decimated with players not playing or just returning or limping. I just watched ?another? interview the day of the NC game. CGM said that the best 2 teams in the country were playing. He also said that Alabama had the best defense they had played all year.
You know how much where a game is played makes a big difference. Also, two teams could play the same place 2 weeks in a row and have a completely different outcome. AU 40-17, UGA 28-7. A 41 point swing just 3 weeks apart and not even home and home, it was home and neutral.
AU was the better team that day, but Bama was not as inept as you indicate. After AU went ahead just before the 4ht qtr, remember Bama was leading 14-13 with approx 3 min left in the third, Bama's next 3 drives (1 was primarily a PR) were into scoring position, then they stumbled and bumbled each opportunity away. That was with a one-legged offense. Still rushed for more than 200 at 5.6 ypc. But Stidham was great and AU was better than Bama.
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 7/2/18 at 2:55 pm to NYCAuburn
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your posts in this thread dont show Auburn is your super bowl
Since I can come up with posts like this vs all of our rivals, I guess that means we have many Super Bowls every year, but that would be a dumb thing to say, right?
Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:30 pm to NYCAuburn
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are Auburn fans using this as their only accomplishment? No.
Are uga fans doing that? No. We have the 2017 sec title and rose bowl to brag about. What a dumb accusation for you to make.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 4:18 pm to DawgsLife
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The only reason to have a Committee is to select 4 out of 5 Champions to play in a playoff.
This is obviously incorrect as that si not what has happened the past two years. We have a pretty clear picture that what you are saying is incorrect.
You are right, that is not what has happened. It is what should have happened. More proof that the Committee of 12 should not be the judge of Championships in sports. Just like in Olympic Gymnastics, you will always have a bias. You have Conferences to determine Championships in a certain region, but you ignore them in only one of your sports. That is a problem when the team that finishes third in a Conference gets invited, while a champion sits at home.
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Your pool argument supports my thinking. Again, you claim on league is the toughest, but we have no evidence to prove it.
Sure we do. We have bowl games and the playoffs.
Oh, you are one of those who wants to say our league is better than yours because we have a better bowl record.
It is like comparing apples to oranges again. Bowls mean nothing outside the big six and now player are skipping them for that reason. quote:
But, since the NIT does not crown a consensus National Champion in basketball, I would say you are wrong.
It is only a consensus because everyone signed the dotted line because of the money. More proof that it is just another Invitational Tournament.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 4:21 pm to tattoo
The best two teams in the country were playing in the national title game. The second best team in the country doesn't blow a 20 point lead to OYOYOYOY yah OY yah Football!
We beat the dog crap out of Gus.....when it really counted.
We beat the dog crap out of Gus.....when it really counted.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 4:24 pm to tattoo
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Bama didn't lose because of injuries, but their back 7 was decimated with players not playing or just returning or limping
Everyone had some injuries at that point. AU had three LBs hurt in that game, and their best pass rusher in the Mercer game. Then Johnson gets hurt in the 4th Qrt. It is called Football.
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You know how much where a game is played makes a big difference
Another excuse that JHS is impossible to win in. It wasn't very hard when AU went 0-8 in the SEC a few years earlier. Could it be that maybe the better team won ? I know Bama fans would never admit to that.
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AU was the better team that day, but Bama was not as inept as you indicate. After AU went ahead just before the 4ht qtr, remember Bama was leading 14-13 with approx 3 min left in the third, Bama's next 3 drives (1 was primarily a PR) were into scoring position, then they stumbled and bumbled each opportunity away. That was with a one-legged offense. Still rushed for more than 200 at 5.6
Bama had two drives the entire day. One that resulted in the Hail Mary TD and the first drive of the second half.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 4:44 pm to Irons Puppet
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Irons Puppet
Sure everyone has injuries, but the whole nation was talking about the incredible number Bama had in its back 7. It was not the normal attrition most teams endure. Nevertheless, it didn't matter, AU won. I was pointing out that things can change from one part of the season to the other. Just like from end of reg season to playoffs for Bama.
No one said JH was impossible to win at, but any home field is easier than away. AU won 41-17 at JH, then lost 28-7 on a neutral field. It was not all about the place, just pointing out that one game does not fully define things. A 45 point swing in 3 weeks.
You are wrong again. Bama had 5 drives (1 was mainly a PR), not 2, into scoring territory. The last 3 they botched.
Finally, I will repeat that your own coach said that the 2 best teams were playing for the NC, also that Bama had the best D AU faced and that AU was hot and playing at home, so they felt that they were the only team in the country who could beat them, even though Alabama was the best team... Your own coach who has never kissed up to Alabama, nor should he. But he should tell the truth and he did. I give him credit for whipping Bama, then stating what he thought was true.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 5:21 pm to CockCommander
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Can Georgia becomes the Alabama of the east?
Considering the interesting "activities" of Georgia Regent Don Leebern, I have little doubt they already are.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 5:25 pm to tattoo
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Sure everyone has injuries, but the whole nation was talking about the incredible number Bama had in its back 7. It was not the normal attrition most teams endure
It was talked about because it was the mantra for why Bama was playing poorly when the talking heads were trying to say they were the GOAT.
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No one said JH was impossible to win at, but any home field is easier than away. AU won 41-17 at JH, then lost 28-7 on a neutral field. It was not all about the place, just pointing out that one game does not fully define things. A 45 point swing in 3 weeks.
It had nothing to due with JHS, it had everything to due with execution that was missing in the second game. AU fumbled the ball twice in UGAs territory. It is called football.
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Finally, I will repeat that your own coach said that the 2 best teams were playing for the NC, also that Bama had the best D AU faced and that AU was hot and playing at home, so they felt that they were the only team in the country who could beat them, even though Alabama was the best team... Your own coach who has never kissed up to Alabama, nor should he. But he should tell the truth and he did. I give him credit for whipping Bama, then stating what he thought was true.
BS, Gus said they were the two most consistent teams playing at the end of the year. He felt his team was every bit as good, but did not play consistent football toward the end. Again, Bama's best win was MSU and they made a FR A&M QB look like an AA. Throw in the fact that MSU Coaches choked away the game at the end and you would be really hard press to call Bama one of the two best teams in the regular season. Give Saban six weeks and he can have Ole Miss play well.
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 7/2/18 at 5:54 pm to Irons Puppet
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Bama had two drives that day
Barn U. didn't have any drives that weren't the result of blatant malfeasance on the part of the officials. The Playoff Committee- so called loser coaches in your eyes- still know that you must have 7 players on the line of scrimmage, only one player in motion at the snap, OL cannot tackle DL, pick plays are illegal, OL cannot be more than 3 yards past the LOS on a pass play, etc.
In short they did the only thing an intelligent rational group of people could have done and that was nullify Auburn's *win*. According to my sources the Playoff Committee was literally appalled at the level of cheating Auburn did after watching the all-22 footage. So of course it was a no-brainer for them to put Alabama in the playoffs. With correct officiating it's dubious if Auburn can even move the ball much less score.
However, Puppet's pitiful arse isn't really worried about Bama getting into the playoffs. He knows Goat-faced Gus is a one trick pony. Run your plays fast because you can get away with anything since the SEC has instructed it's officials not to interfere with the up-tempo offenses. The SEC wants to market these so called "up-tempo spread" offenses, but after the Playoff Committee spoke loud and clearly that is no longer the case.
Goat-faced Gus knows his days are numbered. He can't sleep at night. He's too busy wetting the bed. Too bad Barners aren't smart enough to realize it.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 6:02 pm to Paul B Ammer
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arn U. didn't have any drives that weren't the result of blatant malfeasance on the part of the officials. The Playoff Committee- so called loser coaches in your eyes- still know that you must have 7 players on the line of scrimmage, only one player in motion at the snap, OL cannot tackle DL, pick plays are illegal, OL cannot be more than 3 yards past the LOS on a pass play, etc.
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n short they did the only thing an intelligent rational group of people could have done and that was nullify Auburn's *win*. According to my sources the Playoff Committee was literally appalled at the level of cheating Auburn did after watching the all-22 footage.
Is this Danny Sheridan ? Posted on 7/2/18 at 6:03 pm to Irons Puppet
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Irons Puppet
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BS, Gus said they were the two most consistent teams playing at the end of the year.
No, again you are full of your AU BS. Blinded by your hatred.
Check the link beg at approx 2:20 for 15 secs
Just as I told you. He said the 2 best teams are playing for the NC. He also said that Bama had the best D AU played. He said he thought they were the only team that could beat Alabama and they were playing well and at home, just like I told you.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 6:55 pm to tattoo
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Just as I told you. He said the 2 best teams are playing for the NC. He also said that Bama had the best D AU played. He said he thought they were the only team that could beat Alabama and they were playing well and at home, just like I told you.
Listen closely "playing right now", he didn't feel that way after the IB. Again, in other interviews and he hinted as much in this interview, He thought AU was every bit as good as both teams. They just didn't play consistent football at the end of the year. Again, give Saban 6 weeks to prepare and he will win a four game tournament a majority of the time.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 7:57 pm to Irons Puppet
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Irons Puppet
He also said elsewhere that Alabama was the best team. You listen selectively. He said AU was the only team who could beat them. He also referred to the fact that they had Bama "at home with our fans".
You are civil, but your analysis is hopeless. Your jealousy has rendered you incapable of considering Bama in an objective fashion. In our discussion, I have given AU and CGM credit several times, you have given Bama nothing and CNS only that "give him 4 weeks....". You are like some in the political world: admit to nothing, give no quarter, give no credit, etc. You don't want a real discussion because you might have to admit....
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 7/2/18 at 8:35 pm to tattoo
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He also said elsewhere that Alabama was the best team. You listen selectively. He said AU was the only team who could beat them. He also referred to the fact that they had Bama "at home with our fans".
You are civil, but your analysis is hopeless. Your jealousy has rendered you incapable of considering Bama in an objective fashion. In our discussion, I have given AU and CGM credit several times, you have given Bama nothing and CNS only that "give him 4 weeks....". You are like some in the political world: admit to nothing, give no quarter, give no credit, etc. You don't want a real discussion because you might have to admit....
I have listen to Gus on many occasions since the game and he always said Bama won the NC, but his team was equal to or better. Gus on that interview to the ESPN audience and played the good ambassador for the SEC. He has done many interviews since where he expressed his true feelings on last year.
Again, any team that doesn't win their own division should not be in the conversation for a NC with just 4 slots in a Playoff. Go to 8 or 16 and you might have an argument. Not another sport that has a system like it and the only reason it is with CF is money and the drama of a committee. Your bias prevents you from seeing the truth in the system.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 8:50 pm to Irons Puppet
You seem emotional about this.
That can't be healthy.
That can't be healthy.
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