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re: Can Georgia becomes the Alabama of the east?
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:33 pm to CockCommander
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:33 pm to CockCommander
It is
Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:18 pm to CockCommander
Yes, but we won't be able to accomplish what they've done. Mainly because they are still around and the conference is likely to get stronger again. But I would bet in the next five years we'll be about even in championships, playoff appearances, etc.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 2:48 am to TOSOV
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To someone born, and reared here....it should be.
Do you know how many grammar errors there are in the sentence you wrote?
Edits to correct grammar errors in sentence I wrote about grammar in previous sentence.
This post was edited on 7/1/18 at 2:50 am
Posted on 7/1/18 at 2:58 am to CockCommander
Did you type this out on Cam's dumpster laptop?
Posted on 7/1/18 at 4:55 am to CockCommander
No. They can't becomes Bama
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:40 am to Poker Dough
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Window already closing
It can still be done. Just because several teams in the East is getting better doesn't mean they will be as good or better than Georgia. I mean, Alabama has been on a run during a time when LSU, MState, Texas A&M, Ole Miss and Auburn has been very good. So, it can be done. Now "will it be done?" is the real question.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 6:30 am to CockCommander
I honestly think parity is coming to college football. The playing field is getting level because everyone is doing so much with technology in getting players ready in high school and college. There will always be some separation in talent but not on the level it is today. The players across the board will be more inline with each other. It's a "coach em up, and work em up" platform even with the elite players going through it. Talent without work ethic is ...well a fail !
Posted on 7/1/18 at 6:49 am to kbrake37
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As if the west is full of juggernauts. I mean what tougher schedule is this you speak of?
Alabama has to play Jimbo every year.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:05 am to jumpstart
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I honestly think parity is coming to college football. The playing field is getting level because everyone is doing so much with technology in getting players ready in high school and college. There will always be some separation in talent but not on the level it is today. The players across the board will be more inline with each other. It's a "coach em up, and work em up" platform even with the elite players going through it. Talent without work ethic is ...well a fail !
I predict the teams with the bigger and faster players will still win way more often than not.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:16 am to Crowknowsbest
UGA and Kirby are in a high cotton going forward. Kirby is a solid coach and his staff is really good. He has all the talent in the world within his state. Teams will have to beat them on the field for you're NOT going to beat them in recruiting. Can they handle success? Their past shows NO. We'll see.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:23 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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Their past shows NO. We'll see.
When it comes to sports, I am not too sure the past means a whole lot. I mean, look at the Cubs. The past would indicate they might not ever win a world series.
The past also indicates that Notre dame would be the power in college football along with Nebraska and Southern cal. While they have their moments none are as dominant as they were in the past.
Georgia has a new coach, coaching staff, players, mentality.
But you are right....only time will tell if it can be sustained. that is the hardest thing for coaches these days. Keeping the players engaged.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:35 am to jumpstart
The parity notion is exactly the type of thing you'd expect to hear from a non big 6 fan. "We won't need to catch up because everyone will come back to us and even out!"
Not a chance. There will always be new training methods. Players will continue to get bigger and stronger. Better programs will continue to be better programs.
Not a chance. There will always be new training methods. Players will continue to get bigger and stronger. Better programs will continue to be better programs.
This post was edited on 7/1/18 at 7:36 am
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:54 am to Crowknowsbest
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I predict the teams with the bigger and faster players will still win way more often than not
That's true but here's what you may have failed to take into account.
The number of teams in the SEC is static ... meaning, there're only 14 and it's likely to be stay that way for awhile.
Same for the ACC, which is pertinent because they are in our recruiting footprint.
However, the number of "bigger and faster players" is growing by leaps and bounds in the South as evidenced by the growing number of four and five star prospects in the South each year.
Each program can only sign 25 players per year.
Each program in the $130 million club, and eight of those are in the SEC, is catching-up or has caught-up in terms of facilities and amenities.
The SEC is now loaded with young, energetic, coaches for the first time in decades.
So, theoretically at least eight programs in the SEC will have bigger, stronger, faster players than most in the country.
At that point it becomes more about crowd atmosphere (homefield advantage), favorable schedules, bounces of the balls and lucky breaks, being coached-up and player development ... the last being key to the first four.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 9:03 am to scrooster
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However, the number of "bigger and faster players" is growing by leaps and bounds in the South as evidenced by the growing number of four and five star prospects in the South each year.
There will always be a small subset of those players that are bigger and faster than the others. There is no evidence of growing parity on the field, at least at the national championship contending level.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 9:45 am to scrooster
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That's true but here's what you may have failed to take into account. The number of teams in the SEC is static ... meaning, there're only 14 and it's likely to be stay that way for awhile. Same for the ACC, which is pertinent because they are in our recruiting footprint. However, the number of "bigger and faster players" is growing by leaps and bounds in the South as evidenced by the growing number of four and five star prospects in the South each year. Each program can only sign 25 players per year. Each program in the $130 million club, and eight of those are in the SEC, is catching-up or has caught-up in terms of facilities and amenities. The SEC is now loaded with young, energetic, coaches for the first time in decades. So, theoretically at least eight programs in the SEC will have bigger, stronger, faster players than most in the country. At that point it becomes more about crowd atmosphere (homefield advantage), favorable schedules, bounces of the balls and lucky breaks, being coached-up and player development ... the last being key to the first four.
Haha, you are way over thinking this.
First, there will never be 8 programs in the SEC that are all on equal footing.
Second, you need to stop grouping USCe with the better programs. The numbers you talk about in regards to revenue have you closer to Kentucky and Arkansas than you are to the big 6 + A&M.
Third, no recruit is coming to a particular school because of their revenue numbers from the prior year.
Fourth, the other poster was right. It's the difference makers that matter. Even if there are more big, strong, and fast prospects to go around, there are still a limited number of kids that stand out from that pack as difference makers. Those are the kids that matter for championships and always will. If you're not signing those kids, which South Carolina historically hasn't, then your chances of winning anything of substance are over before the season begins.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 10:26 am to Crowknowsbest
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There will always be a small subset of those players that are bigger and faster than the others.
That's true and there is no denying that. I guess we could refer to those as the five star players ... agreed?
But no one signs them all and, it is a proven fact that doesn't always make the difference. Even Bama loses loaded with five star players from time to time.
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There is no evidence of growing parity on the field, at least at the national championship contending level.
There's evidence everywhere. Do I really need to explain it to you Crow? Look around, think about it. There is evidence all around you. And let's not even make this about our own personal biases. Let's really consider this as simply knowledgeable college football fans. Just look at the number of teams who would have qualified under the old BCS system, and even the latest who have qualified under the new system ... just take into account the arguments for who should have and who shouldn't have gotten bids into the playoffs since it began.
There is evidence everywhere when you are simply talking about contending for championships. So many factors, so many variables.
This post was edited on 7/1/18 at 10:42 am
Posted on 7/1/18 at 10:41 am to reservoir_dawg
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by reservoir_dawg
I'll type this quickly and make it simple for you.
1) Nowhere in my post did I make a singular case for South Carolina that you just implied or assumed .... which makes you a total fricking idiot.
2) You're a total fricking idiot.
3) There will never be "8 teams in the SEC on equal footing" but, there will be two or three, sometimes different teams, in the SEC on equal footing. Much like there is in basketball and baseball in this Conference now. It is inevitable.
4) Revenue is not the issue ... it's the things that programs build and provide with said revenue that attracts recruits.
5) Since you want to make this personal, you fricking idiot, then allow me to show what a fricking idiot you are. South Carolina signs "difference makers." Lattimore, Clowney, Ingram, Jeffrey, Ellington, Cooper, Shaw, et al, and the list goes on and on. It's all about who gets the most and then coaches'em-up and makes good team chemistry, gets some bounces and favorable calls, has manageable schedules, etc. I could easily contend that the SEC totally fricked SC in 2012 or 2013 with the scheduling ... but the fact is regardless, we lost to Kentucky and that null and voided the argument. Still, it is an argument that could be made because it played a role in the outcome of the season.
With other programs that have been loaded but underachieved it may have been a rash of injuries, or bad bounces, or any number of foreseen or unforeseen issues ... because that's football.
So anyone who believes, and tries to sit here and contend that the only reason and team wins or loses is because of the number of "bigger, faster players" on their roster .... that person is a fricking idiot.
Case in point. Central Florida last year. Were they national championship caliber? No ... but honestly, who knows what might have happened had they made the playoffs (which they honestly didn't deserve to-do imho). But who knows?
So if you want to debate like an adult, that's fine, debate like an adult and think before you engage in a discussion like this. But don't come at this like a fricking idiot. It's a waste of time.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 10:47 am to scrooster
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Do I really need to explain it to you Crow?
Let’s see what you got.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 11:02 am to scrooster
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I'll type this quickly and make it simple for you. 1) Nowhere in my post did I make a singular case for South Carolina that you just implied or assumed .... which makes you a total fricking idiot. 2) You're a total fricking idiot. 3) There will never be "8 teams in the SEC on equal footing" but, there will be two or three, sometimes different teams, in the SEC on equal footing. Much like there is in basketball and baseball in this Conference now. It is inevitable. 4) Revenue is not the issue ... it's the things that programs build and provide with said revenue that attracts recruits. 5) Since you want to make this personal, you fricking idiot, then allow me to show what a fricking idiot you are. South Carolina signs "difference makers." Lattimore, Clowney, Ingram, Jeffrey, Ellington, Cooper, Shaw, et al, and the list goes on and on. It's all about who gets the most and then coaches'em-up and makes good team chemistry, gets some bounces and favorable calls, has manageable schedules, etc. I could easily contend that the SEC totally fricked SC in 2012 or 2013 with the scheduling ... but the fact is regardless, we lost to Kentucky and that null and voided the argument. Still, it is an argument that could be made because it played a role in the outcome of the season. With other programs that have been loaded but underachieved it may have been a rash of injuries, or bad bounces, or any number of foreseen or unforeseen issues ... because that's football. So anyone who believes, and tries to sit here and contend that the only reason and team wins or loses is because of the number of "bigger, faster players" on their roster .... that person is a fricking idiot. Case in point. Central Florida last year. Were they national championship caliber? No ... but honestly, who knows what might have happened had they made the playoffs (which they honestly didn't deserve to-do imho). But who knows? So if you want to debate like an adult, that's fine, debate like an adult and think before you engage in a discussion like this. But don't come at this like a fricking idiot. It's a waste of time.
Man, you are sensitive. Is this what you do normally? Hear some criticism of your viewpoint and program and you just lose your shite?
I really do hope I can one day act like an adult like you.
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