re: Cam Robinson and Hootie Jones Update from Chris Low via BOL

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Which was during fall camp if I recall correctly

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It was during the summer.

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And aside from that, if this whole"been at the shooting range earlier, didn't know gun was stolen, forgot to take gun home before going to smoke pot in a closed public park" story is true, then why would Saban say they were "monitoring him to hopefully change his behavior"??? If his explanation of what happened was true, what "behavior" needs to change? Obviously Saban himself doesn't even believe that shite

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I'm pretty sure that dope smoking would qualify as a behavior best changed.

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It was during the summer.

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It was fall camp one week before your opener.

There's only one that I know of in this area- the ouachita parish rifle range--and I HIGHLY doubt they went there- and if they did, it would be really easy for them to prove it because of the surveillance.....

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That one detail was the entire premise of your argument.

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In no way shape or form was that the premise of my argument. When the arrest occurred had no bearing on how the legal process played out. Your entire premise was that a Baton Rouge court showed favoritism because he was the LSU QB, which is not true. He missed four games because the DA insisted on pursuing the felony charge, while it's been almost universally agreed on in this Cam deal that first time offenders almost always get a deal from the DA. Hillar Moore was hell bent on making a show out of the case.

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So if I find myself at a bar in LA this weekend and I kick a man in the face and do all that Jefferson did, I can expect identical misdemeanor charges to what the grand jury gave him? His charges were not reduced by the DA. They were reduced by a grand jury. That grand jury certainly had members on it who were aware that Jefferson was a QB for LSU. That influenced the outcome. I am certain.

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Then you're wrong, and reaching again. Jefferson's charges weren't reduced by the DA, but he had the option to, and that's the point. It's highly usual for someone to be charged with first degree assault over something like this. Multiple witnesses gave statements that Jefferson was not the aggressor, didn't have any history with the guy, who had been kicked out of the bar for assaulting a female, and all this was backed up by video inside the bar. If that's you or me, we get a lecture from the judge and a fine in less than a week. A grand jury, notorious for handing out indictments to a ham sandwich, viewed the evidence and refused to indict. Again, Jefferson was not a popular player, so there's just as good a chance there was someone who was not a fan of his being on the jury. The jury did what most commenters on the case, even those not affiliated with LSU, thought should have been done weeks earlier.

The only way the two situations are similar is if the WM DA refuses to give them a deal, and forces the case to go before a grand jury to try and get a felony indictment. He's already passed on that and set an arraignment hearing, which indicates they've probably already worked out a deal. Thats the black and white difference between the two cases, one involved a grandstanding DA trying to look tough, and the other has a DA who seems to be treating it like any other day at the office. It's ridiculous to try and use Jefferson as some example of corruption in favor of LSU players.

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Might want to check again there hoss.

That age limit only applies to licensed dealers. Private sellers face no such prohibition.

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While this is true, something tells me Cam didn't exactly buy this from some legit avid collector. You know, since it's a freaking stolen gun and all.

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While this is true, something tells me Cam didn't exactly buy this from some legit avid collector. You know, since it's a freaking stolen gun and all.

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I wouldn't be surprised to see that hard to prove shite dropped as they already have a slam case of CDS with gun, stolen or not, which is a ridiculous mandatory sentence.

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While this is true, something tells me Cam didn't exactly buy this from some legit avid collector. You know, since it's a freaking stolen gun and all.

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Once again, ever bought a gun from a private party? How did you know it wasn't stolen?

There's a guy I this very thread who related a personal story about having a relative in the very same position.

Let's cut to the chase. You and all the other assume he knew the gun was stolen because he is a young black man caught smoking weed in a park. If he had been a 60 year old white guy pulled over for a DUI on his way home from the lake you'd accept his story without a moment's hesitation.

He may have known, he may be innocent but anyone who makes an assumption either way is either really stupid, wearing Crimson or Purple glasses, or engaging in a heavy case of racial profiling.

Just a couple of kids playing with stolen guns. What's the harm in that? Sit them out a half qtr of next years spring game should be suffice punishment.

Bet? Les leaving or something?