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re: Calling my shot. (The future of Bama)
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:12 pm to bstew3006
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:12 pm to bstew3006
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Sounds like tDecline
Don’t take my word for it. “For the first time, I have major concerns for the future of the program” - Greg McElroy
I've been an Alabama fan for many decades. If winning 33% of the national championships is the tDecline, then sign me the frick up for it.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:14 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Has there been a decline in Alabama University's postseason football production?
You mean other than that stat I gave you that not only said that, gave you the exact amount?
fricking dumbass.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:14 pm to 3down10
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If winning 33% of the national championships is the tDecline, then sign me the frick up for it.
Okay. This is acceptance. I hear a little rationalizing but this is a start.
This is good.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:15 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Okay. This is acceptance. I hear a little rationalizing but this is a start.
This is good.
Your desperation is funny. Tell me more about how the NIL is killing Saban.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:16 pm to 3down10
These guys must have nightmares about Alabama and Nick Saban. That is all they ever post about
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:17 pm to 3down10
Ok. Good this is good. Now that we have talked you off the ledge, let's look at some bigger issues.
Bama will no longer be able to hoard the 4 and 5 star prospects for years at a time.
You will lose depth to your very own division rivals and the younger players/ new adds from the portal will never be in the process long enough for you to continue at even the 33% clip you subtly brag about here.
No?
Bama will no longer be able to hoard the 4 and 5 star prospects for years at a time.
You will lose depth to your very own division rivals and the younger players/ new adds from the portal will never be in the process long enough for you to continue at even the 33% clip you subtly brag about here.
No?
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:26 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Bama will no longer be able to hoard the 4 and 5 star prospects for years at a time.
It never has. 3 years is generally the maximum years expected for those recruits, and usually when they stay longer they don't end up starting. OL is however one area where it's more common for a player to stay longer before starting, but it's also a position that makes up 20-25% of the 85 man roster. 6 OL isn't actually that many.
The % of actual successful players on any team is overall pretty low. The % of recruits that actually end up good enough to go to the NFL is like less than 1% of the players. Even on a team like Alabama, which is by far ahead of everyone else the number is well below 50%.
Once again, the only thing that has changed is the narrative around the transfers.
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You will lose depth to your very own division rivals and the younger players/ new adds from the portal will never be in the process long enough for you to continue at even the 33% clip you subtly brag about here.
They've already been passed is why they are transferring, so this doesn't make any fricking sense.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:36 pm to 3down10
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3 years is generally the maximum years expected for those recruits, and usually when they stay longer they don't end up starting.
So 3 out of the 4 years of eligibility and gone. That's the work being put into a student athlete. So it's either transfer, NFL or out.
But that doesn't take away the depth that these kids are providing you for those 3 long years out of their 4.
So how can you honestly say that this won't be biting you in the arse as they leave sooner now than those 3 years you claim?
How can you expect the new portal transfers to provide more depth than those leaving after 3 process years?
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The % of actual successful players on any team is overall pretty low. The % of recruits that actually end up good enough to go to the NFL is like less than 1% of the players. Even on a team like Alabama, which is by far ahead of everyone else the number is well below 50%.
I believe all of this. But 5 stars are drafted at a much higher clip than anyone else. Bama has many. Why would these new freshman want to stay in the system and provide that depth when they can play somewhere else. Don't act like Bama is immune because that's not what's happening right now as of yesterday already, man
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Once again, the only thing that has changed is the narrative around the transfers.
More like the narrative in your own heads.
"This is fine. Everything is fine. Sabah knows what he's doing."
But we know the production is down.
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They've already been passed is why they are transferring, so this doesn't make any fricking sense.
It makes compete and total sense when you understand what Bama WAS!
You had depth all over the place. Easily replace injured players with the next 4-5 star recruit. Someone didn't pan out? Having a bad game? Got busted for a gun? Weed?
Re fricking load.
The only thing that doesn't make sense is that you don't really know or haven't accepted the fact that you are NOT what you used to be. And haven't been in 3 years.
And that exact point proven yesterday makes clear and perfect fricking sense, buddy.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:53 pm to 3down10
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OL is however one area where it's more common for a player to stay longer before starting, but it's also a position that makes up 20-25% of the 85 man roster. 6 OL isn't actually that many.
That 6 makes up 1/3 of that position group that needs depth and a position that requires a lot of development, which was a major reason for A1s run.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:54 pm to Errerrerrwere
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More like the narrative in your own (t)h(r)eads.
Beat that drum and keep your fingers crossed !
Mean ole Bama is going away and won't ever hurt you again !
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:59 pm to Trumansfangs
You are one weird bitch.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:04 pm to Errerrerrwere
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So 3 out of the 4 years of eligibility and gone. That's the work being put into a student athlete. So it's either transfer, NFL or out.
But that doesn't take away the depth that these kids are providing you for those 3 long years out of their 4.
So how can you honestly say that this won't be biting you in the arse as they leave sooner now than those 3 years you claim?
How can you expect the new portal transfers to provide more depth than those leaving after 3 process years?
Typically highly rated kids want to play, so they come, they try and when they get passed up, they transfer out.
I mean yeah it would be better to keep some of them around for extra depth, but this is not new. We have always been a team that has started more true freshman than average, and it's always been because of this.
As for new portal transfers, did you not just see Gibbs this year, Williams last year? Do you think the players taken in are just taken in at random? Do you think it's impossible for them to get decent coaching elsewhere?
Do you understand that in the past the transfer players usually came from community college teams? But yet, somehow a transfer guy from a big team is going to be worse?
Everything you say is just describing what college football is.
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I believe all of this. But 5 stars are drafted at a much higher clip than anyone else. Bama has many. Why would these new freshman want to stay in the system and provide that depth when they can play somewhere else. Don't act like Bama is immune because that's not what's happening right now as of yesterday already, man
And the 5 star recruits have more success at Alabama than anywhere else. By a lot. A 5 star player coming to Alabama is more than twice as likely to get drafted in the 1st round than anywhere else, and 3 times more likely vs the field.
But 5 star "busts" happen everywhere and always have. Hell I can see here and name some that were 5 stars, sat on the roster for 4 years, never played or only played in the garbage of garbage times, graduated and that was that. And that was when Alabama was recruiting less 5 star players on average. Is that better than a transfer freeing up a spot?
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More like the narrative in your own heads.
"This is fine. Everything is fine. Sabah knows what he's doing."
But we know the production is down.
No, that's literally what the frick an Alabama fan has dealt with over the past 15 years. Everyone was upset because Alabama had so many kids transfer out every year which allowed Alabama to sign bigger classes.
Some people even made entire websites, like oversigning.com to cry about it.
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It makes compete and total sense when you understand what Bama WAS!
You had depth all over the place. Easily replace injured players with the next 4-5 star recruit. Someone didn't pan out? Having a bad game? Got busted for a gun? Weed?
Re fricking load.
Once again you have failed to actually say what the real problems at Alabama this year were and have just ignorantly assumed it was a talent issue.
I've told you multiple times, and still you persist in telling me you don't really know shite.
So I'll be nice and lay it out for you.
Actual Alabama Issues.
Offense: 90% coordinator issue, and probably 10% WR coach issue. I don't know exactly where to place the %'s, but pick a number and split it between those 2.
BoB doesn't scheme for shite. And I would say he calls plays at random, but that would probably have been preferable to the predictable shite he did call. He basically seems to have announcer mentality when it comes to balance, has no concepts on how to spread the field, and generally when the team needed him and talent alone was no longer working, he was absent.
And I don't know where and how much blame to place on the WR corp/coaching, but they did a terrible job at getting open. Is it because BoB didn't scheme well, or is because the receivers were bad? I don't know. But I can tell you nobody is worried about the receivers in the portal.
Defensively, the issue goes to Golding and Saban. These 2 must have been living in an echo chamber the past few years, as they somehow convinced themselves you can put linebackers in lineman positions against big arse SEC lines, and because you have so much talent it's going to be wonderful. It's not. You can't stop the run doing that shite.
I assume this was Golding's brain child, but in the end Saban approves all this shite, so the buck stops with him. He lets the offensive coordinator run their stuff, but he has his hands on the defense. I'd like to get a better DC but mostly Saban has to get back to real football and stop experimenting with shite because of how offenses have changed.
So there you go, if you really want to troll about Alabama's issues, then pick a real one.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:09 pm to 3down10
And as far as NIL goes. The issues with that isn't about getting or keeping talent. The issues with that is talent still having the hunger and drive that was expected from them to start with that made them highly rated to start with.
Spend Friday night watching film, or making it rain on some pussy that's going to ride me? Hard choice.
That's going to affect each player differently, and I have no idea who or how much it affected anyone specifically. But that's where the real negative effects come from, not recruiting/talent.
Spend Friday night watching film, or making it rain on some pussy that's going to ride me? Hard choice.
That's going to affect each player differently, and I have no idea who or how much it affected anyone specifically. But that's where the real negative effects come from, not recruiting/talent.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:35 pm to Errerrerrwere
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BoB actually has a top 15 offense didn't he
Bryce had one. BoB didn't show a sign of scheme until the IB.
He's shite
Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:40 pm to Che Boludo
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Bryce had one. BoB didn't show a sign of scheme until the IB. He's shite
BoB got Bryce that Heisman
Posted on 12/6/22 at 9:37 pm to bstew3006
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That 6 makes up 1/3 of that position group that needs depth and a position that requires a lot of development, which was a major reason for A1s run.
I agree, there are a lot of them because you need 5 of them in a basic offensive formation. It's not uncommon for a good lineman to start 4th or 5th year and still be really good.
I think we'll also lose a few more due to SRs and draft, not sure if any of the Srs will covid or whatever.
But even after all that, we still have like 9 or 10 returning.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:00 pm to bstew3006
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BoB got Bryce that Heisman
I may have confirmation bias at work here, but I think you'll find the biggest plays that come from Bryce over the past 2 years is when he resorted to some back yard bullshite.
I bet you BoB has never once raised his hands up in a TD the moment the ball was hiked because he knew it was going to be a TD because that's what he schemed up and the defense gave him exactly what he wanted.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:01 pm to 3down10
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I mean yeah it would be better to keep some of them around for extra depth, but this is not new.
When's the last time 20 people transferred out at once?
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We have always been a team that has started more true freshman than average, and it's always been because of this.
This is probably a little bias.
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As for new portal transfers, did you not just see Gibbs this year, Williams last year?
Yep. I saw the cornerback from LSU, as well but let's just look at the bright apples won't we?
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Do you think the players taken in are just taken in at random? Do you think it's impossible for them to get decent coaching elsewhere?
Yep. Even the cornerback from big and mighty LSU. I mean it's becoming obvious you can't look can't look at this without crimson glasses.
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Everything you say is just describing what college football is.
Yep. What college football is today.and since the NIL/PORTAL began. Absent is a Bama national championship.
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And the 5 star recruits have more success at Alabama than anywhere else.
You sure about that? By how much? LSU is always up there and it's basically neck and neck with Bama over the last 10 years of who has the most drafted. It's becoming more and more apparent you cannot look at thai without the crimson glasses on.
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But 5 star "busts" happen everywhere and always have. Hell I can see here and name some that were 5 stars, sat on the roster for 4 years, never played or only played in the garbage of garbage times, graduated and that was that. And that was when Alabama was recruiting less 5 star players on average. Is that better than a transfer freeing up a spot?
Yes they do. Sopsher rings a bell. Good get Bama!
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No, that's literally what the frick an Alabama fan has dealt with over the past 15 years.
Poor Bama fans! This is completely different. Again, minus the championships in the new state of collegiate football. Minus a national championship. This year minus a chance to even play for one. In this new collegiate football climate. Right now. Already. Not 12 years ago.
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Everyone was upset because Alabama had so many kids transfer out every year which allowed Alabama to sign bigger classes.
Again. You're living in the past when Saban took advantage of the rule. Now you are suffering when everyone can play that game now. And you and your coach are ducking whining about it like the bitches that you are. This isn't 12 years ago.
And you know this you disingenuous fricktard.
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Once again you have failed to actually say what the real problems at Alabama this year were and have just ignorantly assumed it was a talent issue.
No. I've never said it was talent idiot. I said it was the NIL, the portal and the new climate of college football. One where the ok laying field is more evenly distributed. And with that you can't handle that LSU can go into a portal with a brand new coach and come out in beat you in OT. Ruining your chance at a playoff spot. It's all changing. And you had the talent. But because others were able to fill out a roster, you can't hold the trophy. You don't understand that this isn't 12 years ago .
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I've told you multiple times, and still you persist in telling me you don't really know shite.
Well I know this isn't 2010. I know tDecline is real. Postseason production going way down for Bama. All of that is true.
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So I'll be nice and lay it out for you.
Nope. Because blaming BoB after hE had a Heisman QB ain't gonna cut it. And I ain't reading fall that copiun bullshite you gathered up from 2010.
You're fricked. And I love it!
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:53 pm to Errerrerrwere
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When's the last time 20 people transferred out at once?
If you had a point you wouldn't need to exaggerate to almost double the actual number.
Not wasting my time on the rest.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:53 pm to 3down10
20 isn't double of 12. But you say 12 I say 20...
Didn't think so, Scooter.
Me 32
You 31
Didn't think so, Scooter.
Me 32
You 31
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 11:01 pm
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