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re: Bruce Pearl 18-2
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:40 am to thunderbird1100
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:40 am to thunderbird1100
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You left out the part where he won't cooperate with Auburn's own internal investigation. I wonder why?
He is doing so on advice of counsel. I suspect many who will assume his guilt will be convinced of our presidents innocence when his lawyers legally try to limit the scope of questions he is asked.
I am of the opinion that Bruce is innocent in the FBI thing but wants to make sure he isn’t asked questions outside the scope of that investigation. It is possible to be innocent and guilty at the same time.
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:41 am to beardedzeus
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He's in his 4th season. In college basketball that kinda is 'taking a long time'.
This is a stupid statement. That's like saying, hey, heres a car with some problems, ill be back in 3 days to get it, and then 4 days later be like, Why aint my car ready?
Because it was a fricking piece of shite that I had to do a frame off fricking restoration on just to make the motherfricker roll.
The basketball culture at auburn isnt even as good as it is at Alabama and thats saying a lot. Granted we've stepped up as of late a little with avery's hire but still. Not every D1 program is the same. Some issues take longer to fix than others. Bruce is a helluva basketball coach. I wanted him at Bama bad and was pissed as shite when we let AU get him but I'm happy with Avery so I got no ill feelings.
Also, before some frickstick starts talking about rival lines and shite, I dont play that shite with basketball. Basketball is pure to me. It's the greatest sport ever invented and I want to be able to enjoy every single game I watch and just enjoy the art form. I dont hold rivalry lines at all in basketball. I've pulled for UT and Notre Dame both if they were playing a team I thought needed put down for whatever reason.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:42 am to PearlJam
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Going by PER exclusively is dumb and shows you haven't actually been watching this team play. We are pretty balanced, but Brown has been our most consistent best player.
PER shows overall how a player contributes. It's not the onyl measure but you cant just sort your list by your highest scorers and assume those are you best players. He is a volume scorer and does nothing else. He doesn't create, he is a horrible rebounder.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:44 am to thunderbird1100
quote:except gaurd the best player on the other team and shoot at a high percentage
He is a volume scorer and does nothing else
Eta: his GmSc on teamrankings is second on the team slightly behind Harper and is a PER like stat
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 10:46 am
Posted on 1/26/18 at 11:03 am to PearlJam
Why was this moved from the tiger rant? Hope Auburn wins by 30.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 11:19 am to thunderbird1100
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PER shows overall how a player contributes. It's not the onyl measure but you cant just sort your list by your highest scorers and assume those are you best players. He is a volume scorer and does nothing else. He doesn't create, he is a horrible rebounder.
Good lord have you even watched this team play?
Posted on 1/26/18 at 11:33 am to thunderbird1100
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He is a volume scorer and does nothing else. He doesn't create, he is a horrible rebounder
He's our best scorer and our best on-ball defender.Posted on 1/26/18 at 11:58 am to AA7
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He's our best scorer and our best on-ball defender.
He has a negative DBPM and a pretty mediocre to almost bad defensive rating. He's not a good defender if he's your best.
Again, want to know why his PER isn't as good as others?
Doesn't shoot it especially well - under 41% from the floor, solid but unspectacular to say the least
Doesn't rebound whatsoever - 2.8 rebounds per 40 minutes
Doesn't create - 2.7 assists per 40 minutes
Isn't a great defensive player - referenced defensive stats above
Again, he is the highest scorer because he takes a lot of shots. Brown is a solid player, but he's not your best player overall by any measurable statistic.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:03 pm to thunderbird1100
He’s shooting 48.3% from 3 in conference games and hitting 4 a game. Again, are you even watching the games?
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:09 pm to Smoke7024
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He’s shooting 48.3% from 3 in conference games and hitting 4 a game. Again, are you even watching the games?
And he's less than 27% from 2 in conference play. He's on a streak in conference play for 3's, but it's not the entire sample size. Again, he's not bringing much to the table except some points as referenced above. He's a good player, but it's a hard argument to call a mostly volume scorer the best player on your team.
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:12 pm to thunderbird1100
He shot over 46% from 3 last year in conference, so that number may be sustainable. He’s been huge in conference over his career.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:14 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:A perfect example of how stats can't always capture reality.
He has a negative DBPM and a pretty mediocre to almost bad defensive rating. He's not a good defender if he's your best.
quote:That isn't his role as an undersized shooting guard.
Doesn't rebound whatsoever - 2.8 rebounds per 40 minutes
quote:Not his role.
Doesn't create - 2.7 assists per 40 minutes
quote:Partially true. He makes 20% of the team's field goals on 20% of the attempts in conference. Although he makes 41% of the teams 3s on 32% of the attempts in conference.
he is the highest scorer because he takes a lot of shots.
quote:You have demonstrated you are extrapolating on stats and haven't really followed the team. One could argue Harper is the best player, though he has struggled in conference play compared to Brown.
Brown is a solid player, but he's not your best player overall by any measurable statistic.
Desean Murray may be the most valuable, but I don't think he would be ahead of Brown on our best player list. There isn't another option to go with.
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:15 pm to thunderbird1100
Who do you think is the best player on our team?
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:24 pm to PearlJam
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Who do you think is the best player on our team?
Best overall I'd go Murray. Especially considering he's maybe what, a 6'4 forward? Dude is a tenacious rebounder, shoots from the floor well, is a threat from 3, very solid defender, even creates a little (for a big). It's hard to find a more well rounded player. Mclemore is a huge asset too, he just isn't used as much. I think they both bring more to the table overall than Brown.
I get Brown is the "old guy" experienced leader of the team, which is why he plays a lot, certainly brings that merit, but I do not believe he's your best actual player overall.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:24 pm to thunderbird1100
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He has a negative DBPM and a pretty mediocre to almost bad defensive rating. He's not a good defender if he's your best
He is also regularly guarding the best player on the opposing team.
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Doesn't shoot it especially well - under 41% from the floor, solid but unspectacular to say the least
Because he's not the best 2-pt shooter, but him driving more this year has allowed him more open threes.
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Doesn't rebound whatsoever - 2.8 rebounds per 40 minutes
Are you going to bring up his lack of blocks next? Unless it's a long three he's not going to get a ton of boards.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:25 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:lol
Mclemore is a huge asset too, he just isn't used as much. I think they both bring more to the table overall than Brown.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:29 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:No one expected Brown to be our best player and no one is saying he is because he is a junior, but he has been to this point or best player. Heron or Harper, or maybe even, Murray, might be by the end of the season.
I get Brown is the "old guy" experienced leader of the team, which is why he plays a lot, certainly brings that merit, but I do not believe he's your best actual player overall.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:39 pm to AA7
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Are you going to bring up his lack of blocks next? Unless it's a long three he's not going to get a ton of boards.
I think you're missing the point entirely. He's a TERRIBLE rebounder, the worst on your team. The point is all he's bringing outside of intangibles of experience is scoring in volume. That's nice to have on offense but doesn't make you a great overall player. He has his niche.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:48 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:If you are intending to say he scores because he is a high volume shooter, that is an exaggeration.
scoring in volume
quote:That's not wrong, but the reality is that describes everyone on our team. Heron is really the only one with the potential to be a really good all around player (stat stuffer).
He has his niche.
We are winning in large part because everyone has learned there roles and have embraced them.
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:49 pm to thunderbird1100
Pearl isnt ever going to say shite. And Auburn isnt going to force him to.
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