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re: Bogus National Title claims: Alabama claims 18 but most are questionable
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:29 am to Oklahomey
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:29 am to Oklahomey
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9 or 10 based on the SOJ scale? You do know that there is no dispute when you have the AP and UPI hardware. One might question how things were done back then, but regardless of that, if you have those trophies, then there is no dispute.
Based on actual records.
Until you learn those records go back to your Big Suck Conference boards.
QUICK...without Google. How many of those "claimed" championships were retroactive. Awarded by services that didn't even exist in the years they retroactively awarded.
What years was Alabama a "co-champion" with a team that beat them on the field? Yet, they still claim they are the champion.
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:30 am to SavageOrangeJug
It's going to be so much fun bitch slapping you around this board again. 
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:34 am to SavageOrangeJug
LINK
Explains the early NC, and has pictures of the newspapers of the day that show Alabama winning the NC.
Explains the early NC, and has pictures of the newspapers of the day that show Alabama winning the NC.
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 8:39 am
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:40 am to SavageOrangeJug
1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1941 are retroactive claims. I get that. Majority of people know that. Alabama fans know that.
1961 - AP and UPI
1964 - AP and UPI
Won both polls PRIOR to bowl loss. Tennessee knows about that in 1951.
1965 - AP
Teams in front of them all lost and Alabama had to wait until after the bowls for the AP to make their vote. Michigan State won UPI
1973 - UPI, which still awarded title before bowls. AP awarded after which named Notre Dame after defeating Alabama.
1978 - AP
Tide lost to USC. The Trojans would lose later so Alabama would redeem themselves. USC won UPI
1979 - AP and UPI
1992, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2017, 2020 are self-explanatory.
1961 - AP and UPI
1964 - AP and UPI
Won both polls PRIOR to bowl loss. Tennessee knows about that in 1951.
1965 - AP
Teams in front of them all lost and Alabama had to wait until after the bowls for the AP to make their vote. Michigan State won UPI
1973 - UPI, which still awarded title before bowls. AP awarded after which named Notre Dame after defeating Alabama.
1978 - AP
Tide lost to USC. The Trojans would lose later so Alabama would redeem themselves. USC won UPI
1979 - AP and UPI
1992, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2017, 2020 are self-explanatory.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:54 am to Oklahomey
quote:Let me get you a little more detail.
Oklahomey
1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn’t exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.
The Associated Press Poll has been active since 1936. The AP took their final poll prior to bowl games from 1936 – 1964 and in 1966 and 1967. They took their final poll after the bowl games in 1965 and from 1968 – Current.
1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!
1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!
1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946!
1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title!
1961 National Championship- Finally a legitimate NC. .
1964 National Championship- While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.
1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0.
1973 National Championship- AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games. Yet Bammer has no shame in claiming it of course.
1978 National Championship- AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0) even though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that year? USC!!!!!!!!!. UPI gave the NC to USC.
1979 National Championship- Their second legitimate NC. Their first Unanimous NC.
1992 National Championship- Their third legitimate NC. Their second Unanimous NC.
2009, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2017, 2020 are not in question except they were won by Saban's cheating.
Count 'em...that is 9.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:58 am to SavageOrangeJug
Imagine being THIS obsessed over Bama's title count. 
Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:01 am to SavageOrangeJug
You have issues with Alabama it seems.
Perhaps you should go down to Tuscaloosa and explain your reasoning on the 1973 national title. Maybe, just maybe, they’ll swap you the 1973 UPI trophy for a signed Vitello French’s Mustard bottle.
1965 you say Arkansas, Nebraska, Michigan State all had better records. True. BUT!!! Arkansas, Nebraska, Michigan State lost their bowls while Alabama won theirs. Therefore the AP named Alabama their champion.
Perhaps you should go down to Tuscaloosa and explain your reasoning on the 1973 national title. Maybe, just maybe, they’ll swap you the 1973 UPI trophy for a signed Vitello French’s Mustard bottle.
1965 you say Arkansas, Nebraska, Michigan State all had better records. True. BUT!!! Arkansas, Nebraska, Michigan State lost their bowls while Alabama won theirs. Therefore the AP named Alabama their champion.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:02 am to EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:06 am to SavageOrangeJug
Uh, child Alabama won the NC the same way Dartmouth did in 1925 (by the way you might want to go to the ncaa website and see who they think won the 1925 NC) as well as the 26 and 30 NC
LINK
NCAA.com/news/football/article/college-football-national-championship-history
LINK
NCAA.com/news/football/article/college-football-national-championship-history
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 9:08 am
Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:07 am to SavageOrangeJug
Very informative. Thanks for posting. Imagine being so pathetic and desperate that you would claim championships that were illegitimate. Sounds like something Aggie would do.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:10 am to supersaints9
gumps gonna gump.
Cracks me up they still try to defend their fake number.
Cracks me up they still try to defend their fake number.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:11 am to 19
If it makes you feel we can go just from this century, since that's when you idiots discovered football and still have more than you. 
Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:12 am to supersaints9
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Very informative. Thanks for posting. Imagine being so pathetic and desperate that you would claim championships that were illegitimate. Sounds like something Aggie would do.
You do realize that every one of Alabama's early NC were won by playing in the Rose Bowl. Alabama is one of only a handful of teams (and it might be the only one) that has had all of its NC winning teams play in bowls if they were won before 1970
Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:12 am to supersaints9
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Sounds like something Aggie would do.
Aggie needs to start claiming some fake titles to build their cred.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:12 am to 19
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Cracks me up they still try to defend their fake number.
Child, your education has failed you again
NCAA.COM | JANUARY 11, 2022
College football championship history
College football national champions from 1869 to 2020.
YEAR CHAMPION SELECTING ORGANIZATION
2021 Georgia CFP
2020 Alabama CFP
2019 LSU CFP
2018 Clemson CFP
2017 Alabama CFP
2016 Clemson CFP
2015 Alabama CFP
2014 Ohio State CFP
2013 Florida State BCS
2012 Alabama BCS
2011 Alabama BCS
2010 Auburn BCS
2009 Alabama BCS
2008 Florida BCS
2007 LSU BCS
2006 Florida BCS
2005 Texas BCS
2004 Southern California BCS
2003 LSU, Southern California BCS, AP, FWAA
2002 Ohio State BCS
2001 Miami (Fla.) BCS
2000 Oklahoma BCS
1999 Florida State BCS
1998 Tennessee BCS
1997 Michigan, Nebraska AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/ESPN
1996 Florida AP, FWAA, NFF,USA/CNN
1995 Nebraska AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1994 Nebraska AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1993 Florida St. AP, FWAA,NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1992 Alabama AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1991 Washington, Miami (Fla.) FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI,AP
1990 Colorado, Georgia Tech FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, AP, UPI
1989 Miami (Fla.) AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1988 Notre Dame AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1987 Miami (Fla.) AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1986 Penn State AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1985 Oklahoma AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1984 Brigham Young AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1983 Miami (Fla.) AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1982 Penn State AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
1981 Clemson AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1980 Georgia AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1979 Alabama AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1978 Alabama, Southern California AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1977 Notre Dame AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1976 Pittsburgh AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1975 Oklahoma AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1974 Southern California, Oklahoma FWAA, NFF, UPI, AP
1973 Notre Dame, Alabama AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1972 Southern California AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1971 Nebraska AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1970 Nebraska, Texas, Ohio State AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI, NFF
1969 Texas AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1968 Ohio State AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1967 Southern California AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1966 Notre Dame, Michigan State AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI, NFF
1965 Michigan State, Alabama FWAA, NFF, UPI, AP
1964 Alabama, Arkansas, Notre Dame AP, UPI, FWAA, NFF
1963 Texas AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1962 Southern California AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1961 Alabama, Ohio State AP, NFF, UPI, FWAA
1960 Minnesota, Mississippi AP, NFF, UPI, FWAA
1959 Syracuse AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
1958 LSU, Iowa AP, UPI, FWAA
1957 Ohio State, Auburn FWAA, UPI, AP
1956 Oklahoma AP, FWAA, UPI
1955 Oklahoma AP, FWAA, UPI
1954 UCLA, Ohio State FWAA, UPI, AP
1953 Maryland AP, UPI
1952 Michigan State AP, UPI
1951 Tennessee AP, UPI
1950 Oklahoma AP, UPI
1949 Notre Dame AP
1948 Michigan AP
1947 Notre Dame AP
1946 Notre Dame AP
1945 Army AP
1944 Army AP
1943 Notre Dame AP
1942 Ohio State AP
1941 Minnesota AP
1940 Minnesota AP
1939 Texas A&M AP
1938 Texas Christian AP
1937 Pittsburgh AP
1936 Minnesota AP
1935 Minnesota CFRA, HAF, NCF
1934 Minnesota CFRA, HAF, NCF
1933 Michigan CFRA, HAF, NCF
1932 Southern California CFRA, HAF, NCF
1931 Southern California CFRA, HAF, NCF
1930 Alabama, Notre Dame CFRA, HAF, NCF
1929 Notre Dame CFRA, HAF, NCF
1928 Georgia Tech. CFRA, HAF, NCF
1927 Illinois, Yale HAF, NCF, CFRA
1926 Alabama, Stanford CFRA, HAF, NCF, HAF
1925 Alabama CFRA, HAF, NCF
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 9:22 am
Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:14 am to supersaints9
Imagine an LSU fan creating a thread about Bama's championships a decade ago and having to update it every couple of years because the Tide keep winning titles.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:18 am to Marktastic86
There's a reason it's InsecureSU.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:19 am to EarlyCuyler3
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Bama's title count
That's the only reason that real people are bama fans. That and they think walking around saying "roll tide" at each makes them high class.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:23 am to SavageOrangeJug
Dude, if you're this eaten up with Little Man Syndrome regarding your football program, why don't you do this: head on over to Tuscaloosa. Go to the Bryant Museum. Really think about your jealousy and how unfair it all is right before you go inside so you'll have tears on your face when you do; we want to generate maximum pity here. See the curator and explain how Alabama's football success just makes you feel so damn inadequate and you're really struggling to cope with it. Chances are we have a national championship trophy sitting around gathering dust somewhere that they might let you have if you do a good enough job making them feel sorry for you.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:27 am to SouthernInsanity
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That's the only reason that real people are bama fans.
...says the fanbase that didn't give two shits about football before Saban showed up.
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