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re: Bogus National Title claims: Alabama claims 18 but most are questionable

Posted on 8/28/24 at 11:01 pm to
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 11:01 pm to
SIAP:

Posted by Bob the Ogre
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Posted on 8/29/24 at 9:00 am to


Posted by Bob the Ogre
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 6:40 pm to
Magic 8 Ball, does Alabama have 18 national championships?

Posted by TripleBarrelBluff1
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 6:43 pm to
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WilliamTaylor21


Posted by TideFaninFl
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 6:51 pm to
Your argument is not with Alabama, but with the selectors.....

But good try..

I love this thread every year.

Season Coach Selectors Record Bowl
1925 Wallace Wade Various[31][32] 10–0 W Rose Bowl[33]
1926 9–0–1 T Rose Bowl[33]
1930 10–0 W Rose Bowl
1934 Frank Thomas 10–0 W Rose Bowl
1941 Deke Houlgate 9–2 W Cotton Bowl Classic
1961 Paul "Bear" Bryant AP, Coaches 11–0 W Sugar Bowl
1964 10–1 L Orange Bowl
1965 AP 9–1–1 W Orange Bowl
1973 Coaches 11–1 L Sugar Bowl
1978 AP 11–1 W Sugar Bowl
1979 AP, Coaches 12–0 W Sugar Bowl
1992 Gene Stallings 13–0 W Sugar Bowl (Bowl Coalition National Championship Game)
2009 Nick Saban AP, Coaches, BCS 14–0 W BCS National Championship Game
2011 12–1 W BCS National Championship Game
2012 13–1 W BCS National Championship Game
2015 AP, Coaches, CFP 14–1 W Cotton Bowl Classic
W College Football Playoff National Championship
2017 13–1 W Sugar Bowl
W College Football Playoff National Championship
2020 13–0 W Rose Bowl
W College Football Playoff National Championship
This post was edited on 9/2/24 at 6:55 pm
Posted by Bob the Ogre
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:16 pm to
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1925 Wallace Wade Various[31][32] 10–0 W Rose Bowl[33]
1926 9–0–1 T Rose Bowl[33]
1930 10–0 W Rose Bowl
1934 Frank Thomas 10–0 W Rose Bowl
1941 Deke Houlgate 9–2 W Cotton Bowl Classic


Those were all RETROACTIVE!

Some of them were awarded by an individual, not even a service.

1941 you finished 3rd in the SEC. THIRD IN THE CONFERENCE!!

Posted by TideFaninFl
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 2:18 pm to
Tell me you have no clue without telling me you have no clue......

The 25-26-30 teams were all on the front pages of national papers saying Alabama was the national champs those years.



Posted by iglass
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 2:30 pm to
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Those were all RETROACTIVE!


Are you some sort of special?

EVERY national championship claim before 1936 is retroactive.

What was the standard of the day? Winning the Rose Bowl. We've already discussed that no true Bama fan claims 1941. But 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934 are all perfectly legitimate. If you don't think so, just check and see if any pre-1936 Rose Bowl winners claim the national championship. Go ahead. We'll sit back and wait.

So fine. Knock the number down to 17. We're OK with that. It's still more than your pathetic program. By a LOT.
Posted by Bob the Ogre
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 2:37 pm to
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Are you some sort of special?

AWWWW....did I hurt his feelings?

"WE DOES TO DONE IT SO HAS 18 NASHNILE CHAMPSHIPS!! YOU MEAN MAN!"

No, you don't, you inbred, trailer park dwelling, bandwagon riding fool.

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1925, 1926, 1930, 1934 are all perfectly legitimate.



1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn’t exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.

1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!

1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!

1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946!

1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title!
Posted by Bob the Ogre
Member since Aug 2024
686 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

Tell me you have no clue without telling me you have no clue......

The 25-26-30 teams were all on the front pages of national papers saying Alabama was the national champs those years.

Read the post above this one. I guess you inbred sawmill workers can see the future. Yes, you idiot. Let's talk about clueless.

"BY GOD! Them championships awarded in the 1940s was on the front page in the 1920s."

Lying POS. Even if Bammer claimed them in the 1920s, it was just a claim. NOBODY awarded them.
This post was edited on 9/3/24 at 3:28 pm
Posted by TideFaninFl
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 5:53 pm to
Hate to break your bubble but

LINK

look at the newspapers....

Posted by Bob the Ogre
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

Hate to break your bubble but

LINK

look at the newspapers....



They CLAIMED them. Nobody awarded you inbred idiots anything until 15-20 years later.

FACTS NOT bullshite CLAIMS:

1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn’t exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.

1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!

1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!

1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946!

1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title!


Posted by TideFaninFl
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:15 pm to
So I take it did not read the papers I showed or you can not read the papers

I mean the very first one breaks your argument.

Perhaps you should read and research more before posting.
Posted by Bob the Ogre
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

So I take it did not read the papers I showed or you can not read the papers

I mean the very first one breaks your argument.

Perhaps you should read and research more before posting.

Go through this thread.

There is a photo that proves Alabama didn't even claim them until the late 80s.

You don't shite about Alabama's history. Bandwagon rider.

NO ONE awarded you any championships in the 20s.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

They CLAIMED them


quote:

Tennessee Fan


quote:

Claimed national titles 6 (1938, 1940, 1950, 1951, 1967, 1998)


Here's Tennessee's claims.

Shall we break these down?
Posted by captainFid
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Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:24 pm to
Always bring this thread out after an LSU, season opening loss.


5 Years in a row now.... Been waiting all day.


Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:25 pm to
I just awarded Alabama their 21st and 22nd National Championships. If you’re not careful we will just go ahead and claim them all, even 1998.
Posted by TideFaninFl
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

There is a photo that proves Alabama didn't even claim them until the late 80s.


Alabama started to claim its earlier national titles at that time because other teams started to claim their earlier NC. But if you are using the Bama Media guide, you need to look closer at it, some of those records were just for Coach Bryant.

Oh, and those NC selectors in 1925

1925

10-0-0

Angelo Louisa

Bill Libby

Billingsley Report

Boand System

Century Football Index

Cliff Morgan

College Football Researchers Association

David Wilson

Harry Frye

Helms Athletic Foundation

Houlgate System

James Howell

Jim Koger

Mel Smith

National Championship Foundation

Nutshell Sports Football Ratings

Patrick Premo

Poling System

Ray Bryne

The State's National Champions

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Laughing at you
Posted by Trumansfangs
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:27 pm to
Is it not odd that the founder of a college football message board would be so childish as to disparage and denigrate rival teams/fans ?

One might think that a welcoming and inclusive environment would be more conductive to an expanding enterprise.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:34 pm to
January 9th, 2012 broke the entire LSU fanbase.
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