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re: Blue Bloods or New Money??

Posted on 2/3/20 at 4:55 pm to
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 4:55 pm to
In 1908:

quote:

College football in 1908 was considerably different from the game we watch today.
The field was 110y in length.
Kickoffs were from midfield.
The offensive team had only three downs to gain 10y.
Touchdowns were worth 5 points. The team that scored a TD had the option to kickoff or receive.
Field goals earned 4 points. The goal posts were on the goal line.
Any player removed could not return to the game. As a result, teams usually con­sisted of fewer than 20 players, sometimes as few as 12 or 13.
Of the eleven players on the offensive side, at most five could be in the backfield at the snap of the ball.
Interior linemen often took handoffs and ran with the ball.
Four officials worked each game: referee, umpire, field judge, and linesman.

Forward passing was legal but with restrictions:

First of all, the football itself was much rounder and harder to throw than today's spheroid: 27" circumference around the middle compared to 21.5" today.
The ball had to cross the line of scrimmage within 5y of where the ball was snapped with the team violating this rule losing possession. To help officials determine the 5y laterally, lines were painted on the field parallel to the side­lines. This led to the term "gridiron."
A pass tipped by either team and caught by an offensive player resulted in the defense gaining possession at the spot of the illegal touching.
An incomplete pass could be recovered by any member of the defensive team or by the first player (if there was one) on the passing team who touched the ball.

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Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

Blue Bloods
quote:

Bama Ohio State Oklahoma and USC all the others like Notre Dame Michigan Nebraska Tennessee have done nothing.

2 of those 8 schools you listed have blue as a school color. Stop using this college basketball term to reference any team outside of college basketball. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 5:03 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 5:06 pm to
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I’ll take that New Money slot all day.


You'd have to.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 5:13 pm to
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New Money

LSU Georgia Clemson, Miami , Florida State Auburn Oregon Florida can be added to the list and rather that than be the old Blue Bloods hanging on the past successes.

If you really wanna talk about New Money you have to go by the list of wealthiest athletic programs in the country who are not so-called "blue bloods."

Money (facilities and fan support translates to recruiting) is where it's at and if you've got the money and are endeavoring for success it'll happen eventually.

A&M probably leads that list but you've got several programs in the SEC and B1G who are making moves thanks to the big TV money and conference revenue.

Sustaining success is the hard part these days.

In everything in life there are three phases.

Growth, Maintenance and Decline. Maintaining growth is the most difficult thing to do in this universe and even tougher is maintenance once you've reached the pinnacle. Doesn't matter what you are talking about, life, business, sports, socioeconomics, physics .... it's all the same.
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 5:15 pm to
I meant the ferocity of collisions, tackling style, speed, etc.

Those are some interesting rules that I didn't know about.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
24958 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 5:19 pm to
IDK, I think you can break it down into the following groups:

1) Elite/Blue Bloods: they are the cream of the crop. I put these at the top 8-10 teams all time.
2) Old Money: they've won championships historically and are still winning today, but not quite Elite.
3) New Money: a newer entrant to the discussion that's currently relevant but hasn't proven to have the staying power of Old Money or Elites.
4) Plebeians: everyone else.
Posted by AustinKnight
Austin, TX
Member since May 2012
5842 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 5:27 pm to
I think most people know I was referring to football accolades chief so A&M would be nowhere close to that list.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 5:39 pm to
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I meant the ferocity of collisions, tackling style

I remember when I was at LSU, we used to play tackle fb on the Parade Grounds, no gear. The biggest differences were that you NEVER lowered your head and you tried not to leave your feet (no launching yourself like a missie) when making a tackle.
Posted by jdevers
Member since Nov 2008
2059 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 5:41 pm to
Read his post instead of puking in your mouth when you see aTm (I understand, I do it too). He is correct that they have significant money and because of that will eventually have success. He made no mention of past success and by his statement even implied they have little past success.
Posted by The Baker
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 5:44 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 3:16 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64967 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 5:45 pm to
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With the NC this year LSU might have as good a resume as some that are considered a Blue Blood.


LSU finally caught up to Minnesota in national championships and we want to proclaim them a blue blood? A little premature, don't you think?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71153 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

Blue Bloods or New Money??


I'll take both.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22584 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 5:54 pm to
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tell that to the NCAA




Why? They aren't even remotely involved in the process of awarding national championships and never have been.

Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

LSU finally caught up to Minnesota in national championships

Are you saying only AP/Coaches matter?
Posted by AustinKnight
Austin, TX
Member since May 2012
5842 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 6:22 pm to
Dude I read his post and replied accordingly
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

LSU finally caught up to Minnesota in national championships and we want to proclaim them a blue blood? A little premature, don't you think?




Well, if that is what I said, then I would agree with you. But...that is not what I said. I said their resume might be as good as some that we consider Blue Bloods.

Knee jerk reaction? or you just can't read?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:53 pm to
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Why? They aren't even remotely involved in the process of awarding national championships and never have been.


No. But they do recognize them, do they not?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22584 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 1:01 pm to
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No. But they do recognize them, do they not?



No, they'll put anything on their website. They even list UCF's bogus claim.

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 1:03 pm to
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No, they'll put anything on their website. They even list UCF's bogus claim.



But...they recognize it. It essentially means you can claim it, or not, and then fans can decide if they accept that claim or not. (Of course, in this age we have the BCS and playoff championships that give more credence to the claims.

But when you talk about anything older than those it is more of a subjective thing.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 1:04 pm to
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No, they'll put anything on their website. They even list Bama's 1941 claim.

I agree with this.
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