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re: Blaming a loss on injuries is a beta move
Posted on 1/6/23 at 5:46 pm to DawgsLife
Posted on 1/6/23 at 5:46 pm to DawgsLife
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How about if Georgia gets Dan Jackson, Chazz Chamblis, and Nolan Smith back? How about McConkey? Is he fully healthy?
Darnell Washington?
How about Georgia's injuries? Did they hurt? We lost a projected 1st round OLB, his backup, our starting safety, a projected 1 round TE, and our most effective WR was playing at about 50-60%.
We also lost our starting RT for this game but no one mentions it because Amarius Mims played great.
Nice to have good back-ups.
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Posted on 1/6/23 at 5:51 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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I've been discussing. A lot of your "fanbase" have been running their mouths.
No, I'm not upset. If anything, I'm entertained.
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:21 pm to Jboney2688
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Here is what you want hear, in the 2017 NCG between Alabama and Georgia we got Sony Michel and Javon Wims hurt but you will never hear Alabama fans say we should have won that game.
Personally? I don't want to hear anything. It should just die and go away. Injuries are a part of the game. They happen and we all have to deal with them.
Yes. They do affect the game. But all the speculation in the world will not tell us how much or what the score would have been with or without players. It's just stupid to say something like..."If so-so hadn't gotten hurt we would have won by 2 TDs!" Ok. So what? They did get hurt, and your team got beat. End of story.
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:25 pm to ETT2001
No depth cost Bama. Grandpa Saban is slipping. Gonna be 72 this year. And just like Bobby Bowden and Joe Patrino he refuses to accept that fact. Gonna stay at Bama way too long. Just like Bobby and Joe at their schools
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:27 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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I was waiting on a different Georgia fan to lay that out. He declined when challenged.
What's the point? Then the argument would be that they happened before the season so they didn't hurt as much....or something to that affect. You can chase your tails all you want. There were injuries to both teams, and both teams agreed to go ahead and play the game.
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Y'all had to play a receiver at RB, too?
Oh. So now you are going to say that if the circumstances are not exactly the same they don't count?
quote:Neither secondary played very well.
Don't even bring up the secondary. You'll lose that one. Hard.
quote:But that's the way Georgia fans feel. Injuries are blamed for losses yet nobody wants to accept that georgia had injuries, too. Then it's said that the players weren't "as" injured or not as important...or blahblahblahblah...those arguments are like a dog chasing his tail. They just go on and on and on and absolutely nothing gets settled.
It isn't about what counts or doesn't. I'm just not going to let some BS go uncorrected.
quote:Yet you spend untold minutes or hours arguing about injuries....me thinks you still care and are upset. It's natural. We are all fans. We hate it when our team loses a game no matter the circumstances.
I stopped getting upset about football games when I was 17 and didn't get any offers.
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:31 pm to DawgsLife
And THE osu can’t even beat Michigan.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 2:12 am to ClaimToFame
I agree..no crying over injuries..best team not best starting 22..boom..rtr
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:05 am to DawgsLife
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What's the point? Then the argument would be that they happened before the season so they didn't hurt as much....or something to that affect. You can chase your tails all you want. There were injuries to both teams, and both teams agreed to go ahead and play the game.
Don't ask me. I'm not the only trying to reach that far back because I can't admit Marv Jr. going out changed the game.
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Oh. So now you are going to say that if the circumstances are not exactly the same they don't count?
Not what I said at all.
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Neither secondary played very well.
Our secondary isn't a one or two game problem.
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But that's the way Georgia fans feel. Injuries are blamed for losses yet nobody wants to accept that georgia had injuries, too. Then it's said that the players weren't "as" injured or not as important...or blahblahblahblah...those arguments are like a dog chasing his tail. They just go on and on and on and absolutely nothing gets settled.
They can feel however they want. That won't make them correct.
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Yet you spend untold minutes or hours arguing about injuries
I've spent a lot more time arguing about a lot less.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:15 am to ClaimToFame
Facts are now beta? Hmmmmm
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:04 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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But that's the way Georgia fans feel. Injuries are blamed for losses yet nobody wants to accept that georgia had injuries, too. Then it's said that the players weren't "as" injured or not as important...or blahblahblahblah...those arguments are like a dog chasing his tail. They just go on and on and on and absolutely nothing gets settled.
quote:And yet this and countless other threads over the past year says otherwise. Injuries have been blamed over and over for the title game last year and now the Ohio State game this year, while ignoring Georgia's injuries. There would be no argument if injuries were acknowledged by both sides. Instead all kinds of "Oh, yeah, well we had...." arguments go on and on and on.
They can feel however they want. That won't make them correct.
quote:And exactly how many minds have you changed?
I've spent a lot more time arguing about a lot less.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:08 am to TS1926
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Facts are now beta? Hmmmmm
Absolutely not. Facts are great.
The facts are that Alabama lost a ton of production against us last year, and the facts are also that Georgia went into both (SECCG and NCG) with a ton of production lost.
Facts are that OSU lost a ton of production going into the semi-final game, and Georgia went into the game with a ton of production lost. Both also lost a lot more during the game.
What is NOT fact, but is an opinion, is that any of that changed the outcome of the game. Just because you have an opinion, no matter how strong it is, does not make your opinion a fact.
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 8:23 am
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:15 am to DawgsLife
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And yet this and countless other threads over the past year says otherwise. Injuries have been blamed over and over for the title game last year and now the Ohio State game this year, while ignoring Georgia's injuries. There would be no argument if injuries were acknowledged by both sides. Instead all kinds of "Oh, yeah, well we had...." arguments go on and on and on.
And you're pretending Georgia fans are immune to this behavior?
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And exactly how many minds have you changed?
Who cares. I'm not here to change minds.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:21 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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And you're pretending Georgia fans are immune to this behavior?
Of course not. However, I have yet to see one thread started about how injuries cost Georgia a football game, and we would have won if not for injuries.
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Who cares. I'm not here to change minds.
So you are just hear to argue but NOT change minds? Seems odd.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:33 am to ETT2001
GA was without Nolan Smith a first round pass rusher and Washington a first round TE and you don’t see GA fans bitching about not having them
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:53 am to DawgsLife
OSU is the new Bama when it comes to injury excuses.
What’s weird to me is that both teams had Heisman-caliber QBs leading 4 and 5 star talent across the board and they talk as if the cupboard was bare even though they were still leading their respective games until late, even with the injuries they are complaining about.
OSU didn’t lose the lead until there was less than a minute left, and they were still able to move the ball well enough in the final drive to put up points to win it even without MHJ.
Both teams lost because a former walk on played his best football against their defenses—not their offenses—in the 4th quarter, and pulled ahead when it mattered.
What’s weird to me is that both teams had Heisman-caliber QBs leading 4 and 5 star talent across the board and they talk as if the cupboard was bare even though they were still leading their respective games until late, even with the injuries they are complaining about.
OSU didn’t lose the lead until there was less than a minute left, and they were still able to move the ball well enough in the final drive to put up points to win it even without MHJ.
Both teams lost because a former walk on played his best football against their defenses—not their offenses—in the 4th quarter, and pulled ahead when it mattered.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 9:07 am to DawgsLife
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Of course not. However, I have yet to see one thread started about how injuries cost Georgia a football game, and we would have won if not for injuries.
Ever? Or just this year?
Also, I haven't seen any of those from Ohio State fans, either.
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So you are just hear to argue but NOT change minds? Seems odd.
Yes, and it isn't odd at all.
Too many people have it in their heads that we can't disagree.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 9:09 am to Dawg4Life47
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GA was without Nolan Smith a first round pass rusher and Washington a first round TE and you don’t see GA fans bitching about not having them
Yes, we do.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 9:19 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Ever? Or just this year?
I don't ever remember. But then it's been awhile since we lost. Alabama beat us in the SECCG, but the only time injuries got brought up was when we pointed out that we had injuries in that game when Alabama talked about their injuries in the NCG and how badly they beat us in the SECCG.
I honestly never saw a georgia fan fall back on that as an excuse unless it was brought up by them.
quote:Shocking. No threads started on an SEC message board talking about injuries? Aren't you here making that exact argument?
Also, I haven't seen any of those from Ohio State fans, either.
However, have you checked out Eleven Warriors?
Eleven warriors
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Yes, and it isn't odd at all.
Too many people have it in their heads that we can't disagree.
Disagree? Absolutely can. But typically there is not much use in disagreeing if there is no hope of changing minds.
I guess we could all try to "trap" another poster into making a mistake in something say, but what is the point in that?
Posted on 1/7/23 at 9:21 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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GA was without Nolan Smith a first round pass rusher and Washington a first round TE and you don’t see GA fans bitching about not having them
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Yes, we do.
Only as a rebuttal to people saying the only reason we won was due to injuries. It isn't Georgia fans initially bringing up injuries as excuses.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 1:48 pm to bamasgot13
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