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re: Black Bears are getting more violations.

Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by bamasgot13
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:31 pm to
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That little snippet could mean 100 different things, depending solely on where your bias falls.

I agree completely and I'm not implying it is anything inappropriate. I just find it really, really odd that his request was sent at 10:25 PM and he didn't ask "can you meet me tomorrow morning". He asked "can you meet me at the ipf right now". Just odd that Tunsil didn't think it could/should wait. It was important to him, whatever it was.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:31 pm to
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If they don't have proof the light bill was paid then we are indeed fricked. And rightfully so out of pure stupidity.



and if they don't have proof that we gave him any money related to those texts, then they don't really have much to go by.
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:32 pm to
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If they don't have proof the light bill was paid then we are indeed fricked. And rightfully so out of pure stupidity.


An Ole Miss staffer (John Miller) is on text messages discussing impermissible payments for a student-athlete's parent utility bill. Wouldn't you say that's pure stupidity?
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:32 pm to
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I agree completely and I'm not implying it is anything inappropriate. I just find it really, really odd that his request was sent at 10:25 PM and he didn't ask "can you meet me tomorrow morning". He asked "can you meet me at the ipf right now". Just odd that Tunsil didn't think it could/should wait. It was important to him, whatever it was.




Pretty sure the IPF is open after hours. and 10:25pm isn't exactly late for a college student.
Posted by EC Reb
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:37 pm to
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An Ole Miss staffer (John Miller) is on text messages discussing impermissible payments for a student-athlete's parent utility bill. Wouldn't you say that's pure stupidity?


We've been discussing whether those could be permissible or not for like 3 pages.

Spoiler: nobody knows
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:38 pm to
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and if they don't have proof that we gave him any money related to those texts, then they don't really have much to go by.



The texts imply that there was an agreement in place between the player and J.Miller and when momma's costs exceeded the agreed upon amount and "keep changing" then he had no way of "handling surprise amounts." Tunsil knew who to contact to get momma's bill paid - when the amount exceeded the previously agreed upon amount he told Tunsil to go to Barney.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:39 pm to
Good thing the NCAA doesn't punish based only on something that was implied.
Posted by bamaqna
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:40 pm to
The OM fans here could be expert lawyers they could spin the argument so many times it would confuse the shite out the judge to the point where he would say "frick it I don't even care to argue about this anymore"
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:40 pm to
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We've been discussing whether those could be permissible or not for like 3 pages.

Spoiler: nobody knows

If they are indeed permissible then J. Miller let the cat out of the bag. Errrbody's momma will be hitting him up to get their power bills paid in this brutal summer heat.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:41 pm to
and everyone here is apparently an expert on the inner workings of the NCAA.


We're just stating that none of us know didly-shite about what's going on.
Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:42 pm to
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You don't have a clue about what falls under the "essential expenses" part of the SAF. Don't get me wrong...neither do I.



I get your argument but come on, it is highly unlikly that this would fall under simple living expenses for a student-athlete. Now, I'm not saying the NCAA should punish you on this just because it looks bad. But I think everyone that is being honest with themselves would say that this most likely was against the rules.
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:43 pm to
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Good thing the NCAA doesn't punish based only on something that was implied.


Very true. Unfortunately for OM, there's probably enough in those other half a dozen Level I's that a measly little ole text message about a utility bill will be a drop in the bucket and will get kicked to the curb by the COI.
Posted by Central Pork
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:44 pm to
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and everyone here is apparently an expert on the inner workings of the NCAA. We're just stating that none of us know didly-shite about what's going on.


That is probably spot on.
Posted by bamaqna
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:47 pm to
True but I also think you guys are making things wayyyyyy more complicated than what it is tbh. In the end, the NCAA can interpret this however the hell they want and rule on it as such. Also its important to take this into consideration, the NCAA does care about what the public thinks and will also judge in a manner to where they won't fall into a lot of public scrutiny. So that alone is definitely not good for Ole Miss.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:47 pm to
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I get your argument but come on, it is highly unlikly that this would fall under simple living expenses for a student-athlete. Now, I'm not saying the NCAA should punish you on this just because it looks bad. But I think everyone that is being honest with themselves would say that this most likely was against the rules.





Not denying any of this.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:47 pm to
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the NCAA does care about what the public thinks



says who?
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:48 pm to
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I get your argument but come on, it is highly unlikly that this would fall under simple living expenses for a student-athlete. Now, I'm not saying the NCAA should punish you on this just because it looks bad. But I think everyone that is being honest with themselves would say that this most likely was against the rules.



While I don't think they deserve to get punished for something so trivial, I do think it sets a dangerous precedent. Schools can't afford to pay living expenses for their student-athletes parents. Most schools operate in the red and can barely pay the expenses included in a full ride scholarship.

The NCAA wants a level playing field for all programs and just because OleMiss can afford to pay the utility bills for parents doesn't mean every other program can afford to do so.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:50 pm to
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The NCAA wants a level playing field for all programs and just because OleMiss can afford to pay the utility bills for parents doesn't mean every other program can afford to do so.



shite....the rant convinced me that Ole Miss was poor. I'm so confused.
Posted by bamaqna
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:51 pm to
U really think the NCAA doesnt care about their image to the public???
Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:55 pm to
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shite....the rant convinced me that Ole Miss was poor. I'm so confused


No team in the SEC is poor when you start looking at College Football in general.
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