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re: BK confirms that Greg Brooks family is a bunch of lying cowards

Posted on 2/7/25 at 6:32 am to
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 6:32 am to
From the poorest of our 50.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 7:50 am to
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Is this about him killing that kid?

Why did he kill a kid? Or are you talking about Jaylen Daniels college career?

He definitely killed that.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 2:31 pm to
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Hey, I saw a lawyer on TV that is not affiliated with this case or anyone involved saying he thinks that LSU will settle this case out of court for 8 figures. Would you rather have them settle for $10-20 million? Or would you rather they roll the dice with a jury trial?


LSU's lawyers will probably file an early motion to dismiss and/or a motion for summary judgment and get a ruling from the court before any settlement offers are made.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 2:36 pm to
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Calling Brian Kelly a piece of shite for the way he handled the situation isn't celebrating you Goddamn idiot.



How did Brian Kelly mishandle the situation? He's not a doctor. If LSU's medical staff misdiagnosed Brooks' condition and cleared him to play then it's on them, not Kelly.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 2:48 pm to
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Do a lot of LSU athletes get their medical care from private providers outside the athletic department? I have seen it suggested by a bunch of LSU fans the last few days. Is this a big thing in Baton Rouge?


Do yourself a favor. Go to any hospital's website and look up the various medical specialties for the doctors on staff. If you think LSU or any other university has a specialist on staff for every possible medical condition you are mistaken.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 2:52 pm to
Sounds like LSU did everything they could to diagnose issues he was having but at the end of the day LSU is not in the business of diagnosing cancer. After continued issues LSU did send him to the professionals that deal with this type of illness and I don't think within 30+ days is unreasonable.

I have a relative that had cancer and was having issues but nothing that they thought indicated cancer. Went to several doctors and told them of the issues before eventually getting a diagnosis. It happens to plenty of people.

No one was stopping Greg or his family from seeking any additional medical treatment.

During the early part of that season LSU was very cautious as he missed some games and I'm willing to bet Greg was pushing to get back on the field for his draft stock more then anything and Kelly has always been cautious with playing hurt players.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 3:00 pm to
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The type of cancer that Trent Williams had is known as "dermatofibrosarcoma protuberans (DFPS)." Cleveland Clinic describes DFPS as "a rare type of skin cancer that starts in your skin's middle layer (the dermis). This cancer grows slowly and rarely spreads. But it can return after surgical treatment.Feb 11, 2024


"Louisiana State University announced earlier this month that defensive back Greg Brooks Jr. was diagnosed with medulloblastoma, a rare form of brain cancer that is the most common malignant brain tumor diagnosed in pediatric cases. The 22-year-old had surgery to remove it.

Brooks’ doctors shared that the surgery was successful and there is no evidence that the cancer spread. He is working daily in physical therapy and will face months of intensive rehabilitation.

According to Dr. Andre Beer Furlan, a neurosurgeon at Moffitt Cancer Center, approximately 500 children are diagnosed with medulloblastoma each year in the United States.

“Medulloblastoma accounts for approximately 10% of all primary tumors of the central nervous system among children less than 19 years of age,” Beer Furlan said. “The peak incidence is between 5 and 9 years of age.”

Dr. Andre Beer Furlan, Neuro-Oncology Program

This type of brain cancer is rare in adults, but Moffitt has treated young adults with the condition."

Moffitt Cancer Center
This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 4:14 pm
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 3:30 pm to
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Sounds like LSU did everything they could to diagnose issues he was having but at the end of the day LSU is not in the business of diagnosing cancer. After continued issues LSU did send him to the professionals that deal with this type of illness and I don't think within 30+ days is unreasonable.


This is a list of LSU's athletic department's staff physicians:

Dr. Matthew Bumgardner – Sports Medicine
Dr. Stephen Etheredge – Sports Medicine
Dr. Tony Johnson – Sports Medicine
Dr. Carl Luikart – Cardiology
Dr. James Robinson – Sports Medicine
Dr. Vincent Shaw – Sports Medicine
Dr. Brent Bankston – Orthopedic Surgeon
Dr. Chip Bankston – Orthopedic Surgeon
Dr. Mark Field – Orthopedic Surgeon
Dr. Wame Waggenspack – Orthopedic Surgeon
Dr. Carey Winder – Orthopedic Surgeon

They do not have a neurologist or a neurosurgeon on staff. They have a number of athletic trainers and a physical therapist.

LINK

So the question becomes, "What is the standard of care for whichever member(s) of the medical staff examined Brooks' condition?" Should they have referred him to a neurosurgeon sooner than they did? You need the testimony of an expert witness to answer that question. I don't know the answer.
Posted by BuckeyeWarrior
Naples, FL
Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:21 pm to
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F off, Steven. Grindin Brian doesn’t need felons defending him.


Says the Aggie fan..


Posted by That LSU Guy
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:41 pm to
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Alabama waltzed into Tiger Stadium, at night, and prison raped LSU 42-13.
And lost to Vandy and OU...
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 6:17 pm to
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I may be wrong about this but since when is it a coaches responsibility to make sure a player goes to see a doctor that is outside of the sports medicine area of responsibility? He is a grown man. If he does not believe his team doctor is giving him good advice, it should be his responsibility to seek a second opinion.


Actually, it IS the responsibility of the athletic department to ensure it is safe for a player to participate. It is in the NCAA constitution.

quote:

President Emmert stated that the NCAA owed its student-athletes a moral obligation to protect their safety and well-being.[18] Additionally, this duty to protect players is memorialized in Article 2 of the NCAA’s Constitution.[19] This section of the NCAA Constitution proclaims that it is the responsibility of each member institution, meaning universities and colleges under watch of the NCAA, to protect “the health of, and provide a safe environment for” all student-athletes at member institutions.[20]

A “breach” is generally a failure to conform to the required standard imposed on a defendant as a result of a duty to care for the plaintiff.[21] A breach occurs when the defendant fails to exercise reasonable care in fulfilling the duty owed to the plaintiff or fails to fulfill the duty at all.[22].



I don’t know exactly when this happened or where the buck stops, but it is someone’s responsibility in the athletic department to make sure that it is safe for players to participate. I would assume that the final call is someone on the medical staff.

NCAA.org - Health and Well Being of Players

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First, they must affirm the unchallengeable autonomous authority of the primary athletics health care providers (team physicians and athletic trainers) to determine medical management as well as if it is safe and appropriate for a student-athlete to return to play


Under NCAA rules, it is absolutely the responsibilty of an athletic department’s medical staff to make sure that it is safe for a player to return to play.

The fact that a player with a brain tumor who was exhibiting severe symptoms over the course of five weeks was cleared and allowed to practice and play in games the entire time he was exhibiting symptoms means there was a breakdown somewhere along the line.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 6:23 pm to
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LSU's lawyers will probably file an early motion to dismiss and/or a motion for summary judgment and get a ruling from the court before any settlement offers are made.


I have no doubt they will. It is their duty as defense attorneys. If the court refuses to dismiss it or issue a summary judgement then things will get spicy.

Obviously that lawyer who thinks LSU will end up settling is assuming that efforts to dismiss the case will fail.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 6:30 pm to
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LSU's lawyers will probably file an early motion to dismiss and/or a motion for summary judgment and get a ruling from the court before any settlement offers are made.



I have no doubt they will. It is their duty as defense attorneys. If the court refuses to dismiss it or issue a summary judgement then things will get spicy.

Obviously that lawyer who thinks LSU will end up settling is assuming that efforts to dismiss the case will fail.


East Baton Rouge Parish is generally not a good venue for defendants, but in this case the defendant is LSU. I would be surprised if an 8 figure settlement offer was made, but I've been wrong before.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19738 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 6:31 pm to
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So the question becomes, "What is the standard of care for whichever member(s) of the medical staff examined Brooks' condition?" Should they have referred him to a neurosurgeon sooner than they did? You need the testimony of an expert witness to answer that question. I don't know the answer.


I completely agree that this is what the case comes down to, not all the background noise.

If it goes to trial I have no doubt that LSU will find an expert witness to testify that 39 days is completely reasonable. And I no doubt the plaintiff attorney will have an expert witness testify that it was negligence not to order an MRI much sooner, and instead misdiagnosed and allowed Brooks to practice and play for almost six weeks before they found an obvious tumor.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19738 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 6:35 pm to
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East Baton Rouge Parish is generally not a good venue for defendants, but in this case the defendant is LSU. I would be surprised if an 8 figure settlement offer was made, but I've been wrong before.


It does appear from looking at some past cases that lawsuits filed against LSU in Baton Rouge are destined to fail. I have ro think that the lawyers realized this and considered it. The fact they still filed it there makes me think they feel pretty confident in their case.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 6:36 pm to
And thanks for actually discussing it instead of just screaming names like everyone else has for the past 3 days.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 6:57 pm to
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How did Brian Kelly mishandle the situation? He's not a doctor. If LSU's medical staff misdiagnosed Brooks' condition and cleared him to play then it's on them, not Kelly.


I heard BK stole Sr's wallet and kicked the family dog on the way out.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19738 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 7:11 pm to
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Sounds like LSU did everything they could to diagnose issues he was having but at the end of the day LSU is not in the business of diagnosing cancer


Has anyone told LSU this?



Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
17368 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 5:00 am to
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It does appear from looking at some past cases that lawsuits filed against LSU in Baton Rouge are destined to fail. I have ro think that the lawyers realized this and considered it. The fact they still filed it there makes me think they feel pretty confident in their case.


It’s the only venue they could file in under the law.
This post was edited on 2/8/25 at 5:01 am
Posted by countrytiger60
Larose
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 2/8/25 at 6:06 am to
no, it's about you being a lying dumbass!. BK did not kill ant kid. and the family of the kid who died in that accident told BK that they do not hold him responsible. I will send this post to BK and hopefully he sues the shite out of you for slander.
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