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re: BK confirms that Greg Brooks family is a bunch of lying cowards

Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:59 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:59 pm to
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Then why did they wait over a month, misdiagnosing and mistreating it themselves, before they referred him to an expert?

Sounds negligent.


Seems to be fairly common in these types of cases as the usual timeline is roughly 60 days.
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:02 pm to
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You mean why did they refer him to a specialist much earlier than anyone would have been in any normal circumstance?


That is not true. There are multiple stories out there of regular people receiving much more urgent care; getting referrels in days to a few weeks and then getting MRIs in days if not the same day.

Neurological cases get bumped to the front of the line.

This did not happen with Greg Brooks.

Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:03 pm to
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Seems to be fairly common in these types of cases as the usual timeline is roughly 60 days.


You keep saying this but have yet to provide your source.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:10 pm to
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You keep saying this but have yet to provide your source.


I researched the topic before commenting.

A foreign concept to some here.
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:16 pm to
You know you're irrelevant when you defend a coach that hasn't won shite for you.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:21 pm to
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You know you're irrelevant when you defend a coach that hasn't won shite for you


How dare BK misdiagnose this kid?!?!
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:29 pm to
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I researched the topic before commenting.


Then provide your source.

For example, here is a link to a story about a high school player who went from initial symptoms to MRI to tumor diagnosis in weeks..

Upper St. Claire Player Fighting Tumor

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Just a few weeks ago, Warren Timko, 16, started to have headaches, and his vision went blurry. Immediately, his mom, Debbie Timko, took him to the doctor. They learned he has a large mixed pineal tumor — a rare, inoperable tumor in the center of his brain


If you did do any research, you would have seen the delays in getting a diagnosis are because of getting an appointment with a neurologist and/or getting an appointment for a MRI. A SEC football player should not face the scheduling delays “normal” people face. You can’t make the argument that Brooks simply couldn’t get an appointment for a MRI for 5 weeks.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:33 pm to
Good on the Timkos, that isn't the typical experience though

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According to available research, the average time from the first symptom to diagnosis of a brain tumor is around a few weeks to a couple of months, with a median time often cited between 1-3 months, depending on the type of tumor and individual case; however, this can vary significantly, with some patients experiencing delays of several months or even years due to vague initial symptoms. 
This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 10:34 pm
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:34 pm to
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Trent Williams had a cancerous growth for years that NFL doctors misdiagnosed.


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The type of cancer that Trent Williams had is known as "dermatofibrosarcoma protuberans (DFPS)." Cleveland Clinic describes DFPS as "a rare type of skin cancer that starts in your skin's middle layer (the dermis). This cancer grows slowly and rarely spreads. But it can return after surgical treatment.Feb 11, 2024


You are comparing a slow growing skin cancer that rarely spreads to brain cancer. You realize that right?
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:36 pm to
You are legitimately arguing with the dumbest son of a bitch on the SEC rant.

Just laugh at the idiot and move on.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:37 pm to
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You are comparing a slow growing skin cancer that rarely spreads to brain cancer. You realize that right?


Sure, it was still a misdiagnosis, no?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:38 pm to
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You are legitimately arguing with the dumbest son of a bitch on the SEC rant.
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You are legitimately arguing with the dumbest son of a bitch on the SEC rant.


That's a compliment, coming from you


Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:39 pm to
TideSaint and TT9 showing up to support captdalton might be the most damning evidence ITT
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:42 pm to
I actually slammed him for arguing with the stupid bastard. That's not defending him. Idiot.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:42 pm to
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TideSaint and TT9 showing up to support captdalton might be the most damning evidence ITT


None of them will speak about their own coach facing a similar lawsuit at Washington


Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:45 pm to
Good boy, now lets dive a little deeper.

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According to available research, the average time from the first symptom to diagnosis of a brain tumor is around a few weeks to a couple of months, with a median time often cited between 1-3 months


Your own source says that diagnosis can be made in as little as a few weeks. And it says the median is 1-3 months.

Why would a SEC athlete surrounded by medical personnel on a daily basis and with access to the most advanced medical equipment not expect to get a diagnosis as quickly as possible? In a matter of a few weeks? They should. Yet Greg Brooks didn’t receive a diagnosis for almost 6 weeks, right in the middle if of what your source says is normal.

Had he received a diagnosis in three weeks, like many people do and he should have, he would have avoided a lot of blows to the head.



Posted by Rebbedup
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:46 pm to
Why are you or anyone else so absolute on this? Nothing will change. LSU may pay or may not. It won’t affect your coach or football program. Because that is the most important thing here.

I do have some experience with this and the horrible impacts on their lives. So the family may be in the wrong. Or LSU may be in the wrong. What difference does it make or will it make? LSU has plenty of money so that shouldn’t be the issue. Why are some of you willing to die on this hill?
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:51 pm to
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I actually slammed him for arguing with the stupid bastard. That's not defending him. Idiot.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66099 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:57 pm to
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Why are you or anyone else so absolute on this? Nothing will change. LSU may pay or may not. It won’t affect your coach or football program. Because that is the most important thing here.

I do have some experience with this and the horrible impacts on their lives. So the family may be in the wrong. Or LSU may be in the wrong. What difference does it make or will it make? LSU has plenty of money so that shouldn’t be the issue. Why are some of you willing to die on this hill?


I don't recall being absolute on it.

I'm sure the claims will be investigated and if neglegence is found, then the involved parties should be disciplined appropriately.

My point is, and has always been that a 39 day period between first symptoms and diagnosis doesn't equate to actual negligence. Some feel differently.

I fully expect a settlement to be reached as LSU is really in a no win situation. A win in court would still be a PR nightmare.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66099 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 11:00 pm to
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Why would a SEC athlete surrounded by medical personnel on a daily basis and with access to the most advanced medical equipment not expect to get a diagnosis as quickly as possible? In a matter of a few weeks? They should. Yet Greg Brooks didn’t receive a diagnosis for almost 6 weeks, right in the middle if of what your source says is normal.

Had he received a diagnosis in three weeks, like many people do and he should have, he would have avoided a lot of blows to the head.


Would having the surgery three weeks earlier have changed his situation?
This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 11:01 pm
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