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re: Big money battle between the two UTs.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 3:50 pm to madmaxvol
Posted on 8/20/25 at 3:50 pm to madmaxvol
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teams...how about when a Tennessee team that finished 5-6 went into Baton Rouge and beat an LSU team that finished 11-2?
Lol hanging your hat on beating the LSU team that dealt with Katrina issues is a choice.
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LSU has had recent success against Tennessee, winning 6 of the last 8 matchups.
That's because they're the better football program and have been this entire century.
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 4:12 pm to whatiknowsofar
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teams...how about when a Tennessee team that finished 5-6 went into Baton Rouge and beat an LSU team that finished 11-2?
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Lol hanging your hat on beating the LSU team that dealt with Katrina issues is a choice.
Dude...I understand, but you lost to a UT team with Rick Clausen at the helm. Tennessee had 5 turnovers, and still beat you.
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LSU has had recent success against Tennessee, winning 6 of the last 8 matchups.
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That's because they're the better football program and have been this entire century.
The worst 2 decades in the 135 years of UT football, and you are still 6-3 vs them. During that time of dominance, in Baton Rouge you:
Lost by 23
Won by 2
Lost by 3
Since the century technically begins in year 1 and ends in year 0...you are 1-2 in Baton Rouge "This Century" against the worst performing Tennessee teams in the history of the program.
Compare that to Arkansas...who, in the same period is 5-3 vs Tennessee and is 4-1 at home vs them.
Compare that to Auburn...who, in the same period, is 7-1 vs Tennessee and is 3-1 at home.
Bragging about winning over Jeremy Pruitt, Butch Jones, or Derek Dooley is like us bragging about beating Mike Archer or Curley Hallman. What's the point???
Posted on 8/20/25 at 4:16 pm to RiverBoatGamblerO
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We currently have the best overall athletics department program in the country
If you don't measure revenue.
Wow did you ever miss the point.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 4:18 pm to scrooster
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How has that paid off, comparatively speaking, to many who have spent far less but more wisely?
Yet they still bring in less cash than Texas.
Do you people know what makes the world go round?
Posted on 8/20/25 at 4:25 pm to madmaxvol
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The worst 2 decades in the 135 years of UT football, and you are still 6-3 vs them.
With two natties. And two heismans. More than what tenner has accomplished because, wait for it, we're the better program. And will continue to be.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 4:38 pm to whatiknowsofar
If you were really the better program then BK's season opener losing steak wouldn't fly. Your standards don't seem very high in football recently to me. Not to mention an average Bama team ran you over like a semi truck last year and the Aggies physically dominated you as well.
If you take away the lotto find of a QB in Jayden Daniels, BK's time at LSU so far would be outright disastrous.
You guys are one new QB change away from being a total doormat of a team because high level QB play is far from a guarantee every season and it's been the only thing making BK look serviceable so far.
Just like Josh Dobbs made Butch look somewhat decent for two years, same situation with BK imo only he lucked into two good ones back to back.
If you take away the lotto find of a QB in Jayden Daniels, BK's time at LSU so far would be outright disastrous.
You guys are one new QB change away from being a total doormat of a team because high level QB play is far from a guarantee every season and it's been the only thing making BK look serviceable so far.
Just like Josh Dobbs made Butch look somewhat decent for two years, same situation with BK imo only he lucked into two good ones back to back.
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 8/20/25 at 4:55 pm to RiverBoatGamblerO
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you were really the better program then BK's season opener losing steak wouldn't fly. Your standards don't seem very high in football recently to me
Lol ask any LSU fans what they think. This is Kelly's make or break year.
They won 10 games and fired the entire defensive staff.
They compete with just about anyone in NIL.
They have high standards. Its championships or the coach gets gone pretty quick.
But this ain't about that. Its about which program is better and its still LSU, even with the losing streak in openers.
Tenner would trade their last 5 years of football success with LSU's in a heartbeat. Not even a question.
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same situation with BK imo only he lucked into two good ones back to back.
Yeah so lucky that he went out and got Jayden and kept Nuss here (unheard of btw)
You're delusional.
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 8/21/25 at 8:08 am to whatiknowsofar
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The worst 2 decades in the 135 years of UT football, and you are still 6-3 vs them.
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With two natties. And two heismans. More than what tenner has accomplished because, wait for it, we're the better program. And will continue to be.
All you have to do is:
Win the next 11 times you play Tennessee to even the series;
Win your next 60 games and hope Tennessee loses the next 60 to catch them in total wins;
Win the next 125 straight games to go from your current win % of .645 to match Tennessee's of .670.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 8:22 am to RiverBoatGamblerO
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We currently have the best overall athletics department program in the country as far as the big 3 men's sports go.
Sold out season tickets in Football, basketball, and baseball again.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 8:27 am to terd ferguson
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But you'll never buy Nico... he's a Vol through and through!
This implies UCLA bought Nico away from UT. We cut him over his nonsense. And it cost him money today and in the future. Both Nico and UT downgraded a bit, Joey doesn’t have Nico’s upside and UCLA doesn’t have UTs roster talent and staff. Vols are still coming out ahead in the deal.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 8:33 am to madmaxvol
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All you have to do is:
Go undefeated and win a natty and heisman
Win another heisman
Then win two more natties
Then have two number one overall picks in the draft.
Then you'll have a good of a century as LSU has had.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 8:42 am to Smokeyone
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We cut him over his nonsense.
Is that why Tennessee found out he was leaving when he didn't show up for practice?
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But while the deterioration of the relationship between Iamaleava and Tennessee was months in the making, the whirlwind that followed his decision to skip practice on April 11 -- a day ahead of Tennessee's spring game -- and enter the transfer portal was dizzying.
Coaches and teammates attempted to reach him that day, a Friday, but were met with silence.
"As the day went on, it started to become obvious. He was gone and wasn't coming back," a Tennessee source said.
Definitely sounds like he was cut
This post was edited on 8/21/25 at 8:44 am
Posted on 8/21/25 at 10:25 am to whatiknowsofar
Heisman is an individual popularity contest, not a team award.
If you compare LSU's last 25 years and the 25 years before UT started to falter (2005), LSU would still come out on top. You would have to go back to the glory days of Neyland, before you would have comparable period for Tennessee (26-51).
Overall Win %
00-24 - LSU - 74.69%
80-04 - UT - 74.83%
26-51 - UT - 84.18%
Conference win %
00-24 - LSU - 68.31%
90-24 - UT - 73.03%
26-51 - UT - 83.91%
National Titles (claimed)
00-24 - LSU - 3 (03, 07, 19)
80-04 - UT - 1 (1998)
26-51 - UT - 5 (38, 40, 50, 51)
Conference Titles
00-24 - LSU - 5 (01, 03, 07, 11, 19)
80-04 - UT - 5 (85, 89, 90, 97, 98)
26-51 - UT - 7 (27, 32, 38, 39, 40, 46, 51)
So, comparing 00-24 for LSU and comparing 26-51 is comparing the most successful 25 year periods for each program. But that was a long time ago...so, we could say, what have we done recently (since Neyland isn't the coach at UT anymore...and Orgeron, Miles nor Saban are the coaches at LSU). So, for the last 3 seasons to compare the current coaching staff's success (as you have pointed out...Kelly inherited a team with multiple Heismans and NCs in the last quarter century...and as I pointed out, Heupel inhereted a team that had their worst 2 decades of their program's history).
Overall Records
22-24 - LSU - 29-11
22-24 - UT - 30-9
SEC Records
22-24 - LSU - 17-7
22-24 - UT - 16-8
Playoff Records
22-24 - LSU -0-0
22-24 - UT - 0-1
Head-to-Head
22-24 - LSU - 0-1
22-24 - UT - 1-0
If you compare LSU's last 25 years and the 25 years before UT started to falter (2005), LSU would still come out on top. You would have to go back to the glory days of Neyland, before you would have comparable period for Tennessee (26-51).
Overall Win %
00-24 - LSU - 74.69%
80-04 - UT - 74.83%
26-51 - UT - 84.18%
Conference win %
00-24 - LSU - 68.31%
90-24 - UT - 73.03%
26-51 - UT - 83.91%
National Titles (claimed)
00-24 - LSU - 3 (03, 07, 19)
80-04 - UT - 1 (1998)
26-51 - UT - 5 (38, 40, 50, 51)
Conference Titles
00-24 - LSU - 5 (01, 03, 07, 11, 19)
80-04 - UT - 5 (85, 89, 90, 97, 98)
26-51 - UT - 7 (27, 32, 38, 39, 40, 46, 51)
So, comparing 00-24 for LSU and comparing 26-51 is comparing the most successful 25 year periods for each program. But that was a long time ago...so, we could say, what have we done recently (since Neyland isn't the coach at UT anymore...and Orgeron, Miles nor Saban are the coaches at LSU). So, for the last 3 seasons to compare the current coaching staff's success (as you have pointed out...Kelly inherited a team with multiple Heismans and NCs in the last quarter century...and as I pointed out, Heupel inhereted a team that had their worst 2 decades of their program's history).
Overall Records
22-24 - LSU - 29-11
22-24 - UT - 30-9
SEC Records
22-24 - LSU - 17-7
22-24 - UT - 16-8
Playoff Records
22-24 - LSU -0-0
22-24 - UT - 0-1
Head-to-Head
22-24 - LSU - 0-1
22-24 - UT - 1-0
Posted on 8/21/25 at 10:58 am to Eldodroptop
There is nothing "pretty" about burnt orange. It is the color of carrots in a diaper ...
Posted on 8/21/25 at 12:19 pm to Eldodroptop
Oh stop it...both UT's are more alike than different. For example, Georgia owns both of you LOL
Posted on 8/21/25 at 12:19 pm to terd ferguson
You guys do realize that Nico only threw for over 200 yards in TWO SEC games last year despite playing in a very QB friendly offense right?
He was actually wayyyyy worse than we all think. The UGA film guy, Brooks did an excellent breakdown on just how much of a liability he was in our offense. Our defense, oline and Sampson held his sorry arse up. His only good moment was at the end of the game against Bama and I guess against Vandy he did pretty good but besides that, he was absolute garbage all season long.
Like I would have to really try hard yo go back into our history of awful coaches like Pruitt to find similiar example. Maybe Justin Worely for Butch before Dobbs replaced him? I'm really not sure tbh. He was very bad and refused to take wide open shots down the field numerous times every game. And then there was that Arkansas game. They only won because,Niho was so terrible that game.
I do believe all of backups especially gas pipe would have done better for us last year but Heupel paid so much he felt obligated to ride with Nico's raw talent and hope for the lights to come on in future. But the truth is losing Nico is addition by subtraction in a major way
I'm going on record that Joey freaking Football will post MUCH better numbers this year than Nico last year. He won't need to play hero ball at Tennessee and he WILL sling it and connect on those wide open deep passes. Kid had nearly 7,000 yards passing on an awful team with one of the weakest olines in the country trying to protect him.
Don't be shocked when he throws for 3,000 plus at least this year. It's not a stretch at all.
Brooks gives an excellent breakdown on our next superstar QB:
Brooks JA Breakdown
He was actually wayyyyy worse than we all think. The UGA film guy, Brooks did an excellent breakdown on just how much of a liability he was in our offense. Our defense, oline and Sampson held his sorry arse up. His only good moment was at the end of the game against Bama and I guess against Vandy he did pretty good but besides that, he was absolute garbage all season long.
Like I would have to really try hard yo go back into our history of awful coaches like Pruitt to find similiar example. Maybe Justin Worely for Butch before Dobbs replaced him? I'm really not sure tbh. He was very bad and refused to take wide open shots down the field numerous times every game. And then there was that Arkansas game. They only won because,Niho was so terrible that game.
I do believe all of backups especially gas pipe would have done better for us last year but Heupel paid so much he felt obligated to ride with Nico's raw talent and hope for the lights to come on in future. But the truth is losing Nico is addition by subtraction in a major way
I'm going on record that Joey freaking Football will post MUCH better numbers this year than Nico last year. He won't need to play hero ball at Tennessee and he WILL sling it and connect on those wide open deep passes. Kid had nearly 7,000 yards passing on an awful team with one of the weakest olines in the country trying to protect him.
Don't be shocked when he throws for 3,000 plus at least this year. It's not a stretch at all.
Brooks gives an excellent breakdown on our next superstar QB:
Brooks JA Breakdown
This post was edited on 8/21/25 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 8/21/25 at 5:23 pm to terd ferguson
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Is that why Tennessee found out he was leaving when he didn't show up for practice?
He was trying to renegotiate and if the Vols choose to pay his number he stays. Heupel said no and announced he was no longer part of the team.
Spin it how you want but it was Tennessee that that said no.
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Coaches and teammates attempted to reach him that day, a Friday, but were met with silence.
Because the Vols did not meet his demands. He was given the opportunity to play this year and make a smarter exit, he wanted to play games so Heupel made the decision for him.
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