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re: Bielema was a long term fix, not a short term fix spread offense coach
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:23 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:23 pm to hawgfaninc
Sumlin is a good coach and A&M being the only Tejas SEC team has HUGE recruiting potential. If they can get a defense they will be a contender for the long run.
Auburn traditionally recruits well and Malzahn knows what to do with the talent. Don't see them dropping off soon.
Freeze is doing an amazing job recruiting at Ole Miss. Can he sustain that is the question. Ole Miss usually doesn't bring in the quality of recruiting classes they have the last couple of years but if they keep it up they're going to stay tough.
Bielema will be OK in a few years when and if he can recruit players for his system. Getting the players for Bielema's style of offence is tougher than getting players that can run the spread. Arkansas is going to have to consistently get top 10 classes to make this work. Can they do it?
I don't see any of the above hires as just a quick fix -- all are solid hires. Just different philosophies of how to get there.
Auburn traditionally recruits well and Malzahn knows what to do with the talent. Don't see them dropping off soon.
Freeze is doing an amazing job recruiting at Ole Miss. Can he sustain that is the question. Ole Miss usually doesn't bring in the quality of recruiting classes they have the last couple of years but if they keep it up they're going to stay tough.
Bielema will be OK in a few years when and if he can recruit players for his system. Getting the players for Bielema's style of offence is tougher than getting players that can run the spread. Arkansas is going to have to consistently get top 10 classes to make this work. Can they do it?
I don't see any of the above hires as just a quick fix -- all are solid hires. Just different philosophies of how to get there.
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:23 pm to TeLeFaWx
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So the first half with Joeckel? Can I pick and choose a first half against an opponent for a brand new QB under Bret, and only use that to judge him? Seems a bit ridiculous don't ya think?
Like I said, I'm not saying A&M will be bad. Why would you need to pick and choose? We don't have a really good QB or a player of that caliber and I don't have to be convinced that we suck. But I'm thinking we have some good talent coming up.
This post was edited on 10/24/13 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:24 pm to KaiserSoze99
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"I'm Mad."
oh someones mad. but it isn't the author of that article...
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BB was the quick fix.
ideally he would have been able to fix quicker. realistically with the talent that was left him, it will take longer to build
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Auburn is in a talent-rich state and has no problems recruiting. It's a top 10 job.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:25 pm to hawgfaninc
Man...I remember UT fans spending the better part of 3 years trying to convince themselves that Dooley wasn't a good hire. I'll just sit back and watch, but I'm pretty sure I already know how it turns out.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:25 pm to nlatigerfan
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:26 pm to hawgfaninc
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Tl;dr
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:27 pm to Beer Bryant
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Bert has never had a losing season
2006 Wisconsin 12–1
2007 Wisconsin 9–4
2008 Wisconsin 7–6
2009 Wisconsin 10–3
2010 Wisconsin 11–2
2011 Wisconsin 11–3
2012 Wisconsin 8–5
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Did you see how low ranked his recruiting classes were at Wisconsin?
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Barry alvarez left that program in great shape. Bielema took over a mess at Arkansas.
gtfo with your facts and shite. bert sucks and will always suck
signed SECr
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:28 pm to madmaxvol
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Man...I remember UT fans spending the better part of 3 years trying to convince themselves that Dooley wasn't a good hire. I'll just sit back and watch, but I'm pretty sure I already know how it turns out.
Why did it take that long to convince themselves? BTW...I thought Kiffin was a bad hire as well.
Damn...you look like Michael Jackson.
This post was edited on 10/24/13 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:29 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Freeze inherited what? The worst team Ole Miss had had in 20 years? It wasn't as if that team was full of kids he recruited either... it was filled with bad players. And Ole Miss sets a pretty low standard for bad.
you just praised him (freeze) for his recruiting in a post in this thread and presumably you meant recruiting class before he ever coached a down at ole miss or the comparison to him and bb make no sense.
so now you're turning it around and saying he didn't?
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:30 pm to madmaxvol
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Dooley
was from Louisiana tech. Dooley left La. Tech with 17-20 record. Dooley was left better talent than what 2B's has
lol @ you comparing dooley and 2B's
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:31 pm to hawgfaninc
That really just says "we are okay with sucking for a while."
The truth is it's tough to start off too slow and recruit your way out of it. Momentum works both ways.
The truth is it's tough to start off too slow and recruit your way out of it. Momentum works both ways.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:32 pm to Porky
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Like I said, I'm not saying A&M will be bad. Why would you need to pick and choose? We don't have a really good QB or a player of that caliber and I don't have to be convinced that we suck. But I'm thinking we have some good talent coming up.
WE won't. We will beat Arkansas 8 of the next 10, if not the decade clean sweep.
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Like I said, I'm not saying A&M will be bad. Why would you need to pick and choose? We don't have a really good QB or a player of that caliber and I don't have to be convinced that we suck. But I'm thinking we have some good talent coming up.
I'm just trying to make the point it's one area. Arkansas hasn't really impressed me at all outside of that one RB, and coaches even left with minimal talent capable, muster up something.
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Like I said, I'm not saying A&M will be bad. Why would you need to pick and choose? We don't have a really good QB or a player of that caliber and I don't have to be convinced that we suck. But I'm thinking we have some good talent coming up.
No you don't... it's quite obvious to everyone.
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Like I said, I'm not saying A&M will be bad. Why would you need to pick and choose? We don't have a really good QB or a player of that caliber and I don't have to be convinced that we suck. But I'm thinking we have some good talent coming up.
We will see. I still think Bielema's downfall is not staffing up with Texas high school football relationships. That's a problem on the macroscopic scale. Individual players, remain to be seen. I know there is some defender we are trying to steal from your own backyard, and if we are successful, I'll pretty much have sealed the coffin on my opinion of Bielema.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:33 pm to nlatigerfan
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If they can get a defense they will be a contender for the long run.
spread offense and a strong defense doesn't go together fwiw
as long as Sumlin is running his spread offense they won't have a strong defense. but that's what they get for selling their soul for the quick fix...
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:33 pm to piggilicious
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you just praised him (freeze) for his recruiting in a post in this thread and presumably you meant recruiting class before he ever coached a down at ole miss or the comparison to him and bb make no sense.
so now you're turning it around and saying he didn't?
I have no idea what you mean by this.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:34 pm to hawgfaninc
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spread offense and a strong defense doesn't go together fwiw
OU a few years ago, with Sumlin on staff.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:36 pm to hawgfaninc
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spread offense and a strong defense doesn't go together fwiw
I beg to differ. but continue with this false talking point
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:37 pm to hawgfaninc
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spread offense and a strong defense doesn't go together fwiw
as long as Sumlin is running his spread offense they won't have a strong defense. but that's what they get for selling their soul for the quick fix...
UF 2006, 2008, and 2009
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:39 pm to hawgfaninc
2Bs=8Ls
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:41 pm to TeLeFaWx
Ole Miss had top 20 recruiting classes in 2009, 2010, 2011
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:42 pm to TeLeFaWx
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WE won't. We will beat Arkansas 8 of the next 10, if not the decade clean sweep.
Y'all are so good that ya just barely beat Ole Miss and lost to Auburn.
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No you don't... it's quite obvious to everyone.
Ya think?
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