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re: Bielema was a long term fix, not a short term fix spread offense coach
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:27 am to AUtigerNOLA
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:27 am to AUtigerNOLA
Never...He did not even have a losing season at Bowling Green.
This writer, Adam, did an awful job of selecting "quick fix" coaches.
Even the catalyst, Gus has never coached on a team with a losing record. Bret sure has.
This writer, Adam, did an awful job of selecting "quick fix" coaches.
Even the catalyst, Gus has never coached on a team with a losing record. Bret sure has.
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:27 am to TeLeFaWx
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Skewed stat when you have the greatest college football player scoring at will.
so you agree: one trick pony, one trick pony, one trick pony.
again, stumlin's the bestest.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:28 am to piggilicious
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stumlin's
I like that...can I use it?
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:28 am to parkjas2001
absolutely and pass it on. 
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:30 am to See5
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So given the track record of a Meyer, Stoops, Malzahn, Chip Kelly, etc. etc. what makes people think that Bielema's system is better for the long term?
Because Bielema all of his offensive systems came really close to winning 3 straight Rose Bowls! Woo Pig!
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:30 am to piggilicious
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:33 am to hawgfaninc
I really don't view Gus as being a "quick fix" type of coach. I view him as being very innovative. I do agree with the article in the sense that anyone strictly running a spread type offense or a specific defense is limiting themselves in regard to innovation. This isn't Gus.
When he coached at Arkansas, he didn't run a "spread offense". The man adapted to the talent that was available, while at the same time factoring in the clown with a whistle variable. I hate to think what he could do with that type of talent without having to factor Bozo the clown into the equation.
I think Bielema is a good coach. Time will tell. But I believe Gus is a much better offensive coach than Chaney and I hope like hell I'm wrong..
When he coached at Arkansas, he didn't run a "spread offense". The man adapted to the talent that was available, while at the same time factoring in the clown with a whistle variable. I hate to think what he could do with that type of talent without having to factor Bozo the clown into the equation.
I think Bielema is a good coach. Time will tell. But I believe Gus is a much better offensive coach than Chaney and I hope like hell I'm wrong..
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:34 am to omrebelfan20
This is not a 'remodel' project going from Petrino to Bielema, this is a total rebuild.
Already the young talent is starting to take over - Collins, Hunter Henry, J Williams, Kirkland, Skipper, Philon - those guys could play for any team in the conference (I didn't say 'start', I said 'play'.) Sam Hill is going to be All-SEC before his career is over. More help is on the way.
Have your fun and get your stupid comments in while you can. It won't be as much fun in a couple of years.
Already the young talent is starting to take over - Collins, Hunter Henry, J Williams, Kirkland, Skipper, Philon - those guys could play for any team in the conference (I didn't say 'start', I said 'play'.) Sam Hill is going to be All-SEC before his career is over. More help is on the way.
Have your fun and get your stupid comments in while you can. It won't be as much fun in a couple of years.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:35 am to WonderWartHawg
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Already the young talent is starting to take over - Collins, Hunter Henry, J Williams, Kirkland, Skipper, Philon - those guys could play for any team in the conference (I didn't say 'start', I said 'play'.) Sam Hill is going to be All-SEC before his career is over. More help is on the way.
Freeze got guys who would start at other teams immediately. Why can't Bret?
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:36 am to parkjas2001
i'm seeing people type and all i'm reading is people are scared
scared that 2B's is building a better product than these so called quick fixes. scared that your team sold it' soul for a quick fix like miss state and will be back to where you were before you hired your quick fix
scared that 2B's is building a better product than these so called quick fixes. scared that your team sold it' soul for a quick fix like miss state and will be back to where you were before you hired your quick fix
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:38 am to hawgfaninc
like it was stated before...whatever helps you sleep at night.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:40 am to hawgfaninc
If i have the choice of a quick fix type coach like Urban Meyer or a long term fix guy like Bielema, I think I'll take the Meyer like guy.
Having said that, I really do hope Bielema gets Arky turned around.
Having said that, I really do hope Bielema gets Arky turned around.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:41 am to hawgfaninc
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scared that 2B's is building a better product than these so called quick fixes. scared that your team sold it' soul for a quick fix like miss state and will be back to where you were before you hired your quick fix
Meh. I'd rather Arkansas more often than not be better than Auburn, Ole Miss and State. It makes our Jerry World game more relevant. I'm scared it'll be a snoozefest and not renewed in a decade.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:42 am to AUtigerNOLA
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Bowling Green Falcons (Mid-American Conference) (2001–2002)
2001 Bowling Green 8–3 5–3 2nd
2002 Bowling Green 9–3 6–2 3rd
Bowling Green: 17–6 11–5
Utah Utes (Mountain West Conference) (2003–2004)
2003 Utah 10–2 6–1 1st W Liberty 21 21
2004 Utah 12–0 7–0 1st W Fiesta† 5 4
Utah: 22–2 13–1
Florida Gators (Southeastern Conference) (2005–2010)
2005 Florida 9–3 5–3 T–2nd (East) W Outback 16 12
2006 Florida 13–1 7–1 1st (East) W BCS NCG† 1 1
2007 Florida 9–4 5–3 3rd (East) L Capital One 16 13
2008 Florida 13–1 7–1 1st (East) W BCS NCG† 1 1
2009 Florida 13–1 8–0 1st (East) W Sugar† 3 3
2010 Florida 8–5 4–4 2nd (East) W Outback
Florida: 65–15 36–12
Ohio State Buckeyes (Big Ten Conference) (2012–present)
2012 Ohio State 12–0 8–0 1st (Leaders) ‡ ‡ ‡ 3
2013 Ohio State 7–0 3–0 (Leaders)
Ohio State: 19–0 11–0 ‡ Ineligible for Big Ten title, bowl game and Coaches' Poll
Total: 123–23
Looks like never
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:43 am to hawgfaninc
Cliff Notes on that article:
"I'm Mad."
Most good coaches are at least moderately successful in their first year. They don't lose to OU 77-0. They don't lose the home opener to Arkansas State. They come out with the talent on hand and win the games they should, and are in every game until late in the 4th quarter. The only excuse is a major injury bug.
They don't lose to Rutgers. They don't get blown out at home by 45 points. They don't go on 5-game losing streaks.
BB was the quick fix.
Auburn is in a talent-rich state and has no problems recruiting. It's a top 10 job.
Arkansas is a good job, but not as good as Auburn, and there were not very many good available coaches last year.
Give Arky credit. They stole a coach from one of the better B1G programs. Arky will get a good coach eventually (see Bobby P), but last year was not a good year to be looking.
"I'm Mad."
Most good coaches are at least moderately successful in their first year. They don't lose to OU 77-0. They don't lose the home opener to Arkansas State. They come out with the talent on hand and win the games they should, and are in every game until late in the 4th quarter. The only excuse is a major injury bug.
They don't lose to Rutgers. They don't get blown out at home by 45 points. They don't go on 5-game losing streaks.
BB was the quick fix.
Auburn is in a talent-rich state and has no problems recruiting. It's a top 10 job.
Arkansas is a good job, but not as good as Auburn, and there were not very many good available coaches last year.
Give Arky credit. They stole a coach from one of the better B1G programs. Arky will get a good coach eventually (see Bobby P), but last year was not a good year to be looking.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:47 am to TeLeFaWx
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Meh. I'd rather Arkansas more often than not be better than Auburn, Ole Miss and State. It makes our Jerry World game more relevant. I'm scared it'll be a snoozefest and not renewed in a decade.
Let's see what Sumlin can do when Johnny leaves. That type of player being on the field tends to add an element of synergy to the team that's hard to measure. A&M has that chemistry when he's on the field. When he's not, I think about the first half of the game against Rice. I'm not saying A&M will be bad. I'm saying Johnny Football won't be around forever and I'm not quite yet sold on Sumlin.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:50 am to TeLeFaWx
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Freeze got guys who would start at other teams immediately. Why can't Bret?
I was being conservative in my statements since they are all freshmen (except one RS freshman and one true soph) - I figure Philon, Collins, Williams, Henry and maybe Kirkland COULD start at some SEC schools right now. And certainly in another year.
Other schools sure wanted them.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:54 am to hawgfaninc
Bert has never had a losing season
2006 Wisconsin 12–1
2007 Wisconsin 9–4
2008 Wisconsin 7–6
2009 Wisconsin 10–3
2010 Wisconsin 11–2
2011 Wisconsin 11–3
2012 Wisconsin 8–5
2006 Wisconsin 12–1
2007 Wisconsin 9–4
2008 Wisconsin 7–6
2009 Wisconsin 10–3
2010 Wisconsin 11–2
2011 Wisconsin 11–3
2012 Wisconsin 8–5
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:57 am to hawgfaninc
Through the first 8 games of 2012, Arkansas was 3-5 overall and 2-3 in the SEC with a 52-0 blowout at home to Bama.
Through the first 8 games of 2013, Arkansas is 3-5 overall and 0-4 in the SEC with a 52-0 blowout loss at Bama.
Confirms, Bielema was not a quick fix.
Through the first 8 games of 2013, Arkansas is 3-5 overall and 0-4 in the SEC with a 52-0 blowout loss at Bama.
Confirms, Bielema was not a quick fix.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:57 am to Porky
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Let's see what Sumlin can do when Johnny leaves. That type of player being on the field tends to add an element of synergy to the team that's hard to measure. A&M has that chemistry when he's on the field. When he's not, I think about the first half of the game against Rice. I'm not saying A&M will be bad. I'm saying Johnny Football won't be around forever and I'm not quite yet sold on Sumlin.
Like I said, you can usually tell from day 1 which coaches are going to work out. If not for Sumlin, we may not even have a JFF. He was not even being considered in the 2-deep until Sumlin showed up.
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