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re: Best SEC players (2000-2020) - 64 player bracket (VOTE)
Posted on 3/27/20 at 12:52 pm to hiremikeleach
Posted on 3/27/20 at 12:52 pm to hiremikeleach
He'll destroy Myles Thug Garrett
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 12:54 pm to Tigerfan56
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I know I'll spend the first few pages arguing with people who didn't read the method used to seed and/or select.
It is why you gained some of my respect for just trying to do it. Can't please everyone
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:03 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
quote:That little girl shouldn’t be anywhere near this bracket.
Tuna
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:05 pm to Tigerfan56
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QB REGION
(1)Cam Newton
(16)Drew Lock
(8)Eli Manning
(9)Jason Cambell
(5)Tua
(12)Matthew Stafford
(3)Johnny Manziel
(14)Jay Cutler
(6)Rex Grossman
(11)Dak Prescott
(7)AJ McCarron
(10)Ryan Mallett
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RB/WR REGION
(4)Darren McFadden
(13)Julio Jones
(3)Trent Richardson
(14)Todd Gurley
(6)Amari Cooper
(11)AJ Green
(7)Mike Evans
(10)Ronnie Brown
(2)Derrick Henry
(15)Knowshon Moreno
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DL/LB Region
(4)Roquan Smith
(13)Derek Barnett
(5)Jarvis Jones
(12)Nick Fairley
(6)Myles Garrett
(11)Patrick Willis
(7)Jadaveon Clowney
(10)John Henderson
(2)Quinnen Williams
(15)CJ Moseley
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CB/S Region
(1)Tyrann Mathieu
(16)Derek Stingley Jr.
(8)Dee Milliner
(9)Vernon Hargreaves
(6)Joe Haden
(11)Thomas Davis
(7)Mark Barron
(10)Minkah Fitzpatrick
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1. DO NOT VOTE in any matchup that involves a player from your favorite team (unless the matchup is between 2 players from your team).
There were a lot of matchups I could not vote on
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:33 pm to Box Geauxrilla
Cam Newton
Eli Manning
Tua Tagaliova
Johnny Manziel
Dak Prescott
AJ McCarron
Darren McFadden
Todd Gurley
AJ Green
Ronnie Brown
Derrick Henry
Roquan Smith
Nick Fairley
Patrick Willis
Jadaveon Clowney
Quinnen Williams
Tyrann Matthieu
Vernon Hargreaves
Thomas Davis
Minkah Fitzpatrick
Eli Manning
Tua Tagaliova
Johnny Manziel
Dak Prescott
AJ McCarron
Darren McFadden
Todd Gurley
AJ Green
Ronnie Brown
Derrick Henry
Roquan Smith
Nick Fairley
Patrick Willis
Jadaveon Clowney
Quinnen Williams
Tyrann Matthieu
Vernon Hargreaves
Thomas Davis
Minkah Fitzpatrick
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:32 pm to Tigerfan56
Edit.
I’m an idiot
I’m an idiot
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:34 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Devin White being left out of the top 16, and me not actually knowing who should be taken off is insane. Probably Spears but shite that’s a loaded list
Devin White is on there as the 8 seed
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:34 pm to Tigerfan56
My bad. Reading is hard
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:59 pm to Tigerfan56
(1)Cam Newton
(16)Drew Lock
(8)Eli Manning
(9)Jason Cambell
(4)Tim Tebow
(13)Jamarcus Russell
(5)Tua
(12)Matthew Stafford
(3)Johnny Manziel
(14)Jay Cutler
(6)Rex Grossman
(11)Dak Prescott
(7)AJ McCarron
(10)Ryan Mallett
(2)Joe Burrow
(15)Matt Jones
RB/WR REGION
(1)Mark Ingram
(16)Odell Beckham
(8)Jamarr Chase
(9)Jerry Jeudy
(4)Darren McFadden
(13)Julio Jones
(5)Leonard Fournette
(12)Cadillac Williams
(3)Trent Richardson
(14)Todd Gurley
(6)Amari Cooper
(11)AJ Green
(7)Mike Evans
(10)Ronnie Brown
(2)Derrick Henry
(15)Knowshon Moreno
DL/LB Region
(1)Jonathan Allen
(16)Marcus Spears
(8)Devin White
(9)Josh Allen
(4)Roquan Smith
(13)Derek Barnett
(5)Jarvis Jones
(12)Nick Fairley
(3)Glenn Dorsey
(14)David Pollack
(6)Myles Garrett
(11)Patrick Willis
(7)Jadaveon Clowney
(10)John Henderson
(2)Quinnen Williams
(15)CJ Moseley
CB/S Region
(1)Tyrann Mathieu
(16)Derek Stingley Jr.
(8)Dee Milliner
(9)Vernon Hargreaves
(4)Laron Landry
(13)Haha Clinton Dix
(5)Morris Claiborne
(12)Reggie Nelson
(3)Patrick Peterson
(14)Carlos Rogers
(6)Joe Haden
(11)Thomas Davis
(7)Mark Barron
(10)Minkah Fitzpatrick
(2)Eric Berry
(15)Tre'davious White
Thanks for putting this together
(16)Drew Lock
(8)Eli Manning
(9)Jason Cambell
(4)Tim Tebow
(13)Jamarcus Russell
(5)Tua
(12)Matthew Stafford
(3)Johnny Manziel
(14)Jay Cutler
(6)Rex Grossman
(11)Dak Prescott
(7)AJ McCarron
(10)Ryan Mallett
(2)Joe Burrow
(15)Matt Jones
RB/WR REGION
(1)Mark Ingram
(16)Odell Beckham
(8)Jamarr Chase
(9)Jerry Jeudy
(4)Darren McFadden
(13)Julio Jones
(5)Leonard Fournette
(12)Cadillac Williams
(3)Trent Richardson
(14)Todd Gurley
(6)Amari Cooper
(11)AJ Green
(7)Mike Evans
(10)Ronnie Brown
(2)Derrick Henry
(15)Knowshon Moreno
DL/LB Region
(1)Jonathan Allen
(16)Marcus Spears
(8)Devin White
(9)Josh Allen
(4)Roquan Smith
(13)Derek Barnett
(5)Jarvis Jones
(12)Nick Fairley
(3)Glenn Dorsey
(14)David Pollack
(6)Myles Garrett
(11)Patrick Willis
(7)Jadaveon Clowney
(10)John Henderson
(2)Quinnen Williams
(15)CJ Moseley
CB/S Region
(1)Tyrann Mathieu
(16)Derek Stingley Jr.
(8)Dee Milliner
(9)Vernon Hargreaves
(4)Laron Landry
(13)Haha Clinton Dix
(5)Morris Claiborne
(12)Reggie Nelson
(3)Patrick Peterson
(14)Carlos Rogers
(6)Joe Haden
(11)Thomas Davis
(7)Mark Barron
(10)Minkah Fitzpatrick
(2)Eric Berry
(15)Tre'davious White
Thanks for putting this together
Posted on 3/27/20 at 3:08 pm to Tigerfan56
(1)Cam Newton
(16)Drew Lock
(8)Eli Manning
(9)Jason Cambell
(4)Tim Tebow
(13)Jamarcus Russell
(5)Tua
(12)Matthew Stafford
(3)Johnny Manziel
(14)Jay Cutler
(6)Rex Grossman
(11)Dak Prescott
(7)AJ McCarron
(10)Ryan Mallett
(2)Joe Burrow
(15)Matt Jones
(1)Mark Ingram
(16)Odell Beckham
(8)Jamarr Chase
(9)Jerry Jeudy
(4)Darren McFadden
(13)Julio Jones
(5)Leonard Fournette
(12)Cadillac Williams
(3)Trent Richardson
(14)Todd Gurley
(6)Amari Cooper
(11)AJ Green
(7)Mike Evans
(10)Ronnie Brown
(2)Derrick Henry
(15)Knowshon Moreno
(1)Jonathan Allen
(16)Marcus Spears
(8)Devin White
(9)Josh Allen
(4)Roquan Smith
(13)Derek Barnett
(5)Jarvis Jones
(12)Nick Fairley
(3)Glenn Dorsey
(14)David Pollack
(6)Myles Garrett
(11)Patrick Willis
(7)Jadaveon Clowney
(10)John Henderson
(2)Quinnen Williams
(15)CJ Moseley
(1)Tyrann Mathieu
(16)Derek Stingley Jr.
(8)Dee Milliner
(9)Vernon Hargreaves
(4)Laron Landry
(13)Haha Clinton Dix
(5)Morris Claiborne
(12)Reggie Nelson
(3)Patrick Peterson
(14)Carlos Rogers
(6)Joe Haden
(11)Thomas Davis
(7)Mark Barron
(10)Minkah Fitzpatrick
(2)Eric Berry
(15)Tre'davious White
(16)Drew Lock
(8)Eli Manning
(9)Jason Cambell
(4)Tim Tebow
(13)Jamarcus Russell
(5)Tua
(12)Matthew Stafford
(3)Johnny Manziel
(14)Jay Cutler
(6)Rex Grossman
(11)Dak Prescott
(7)AJ McCarron
(10)Ryan Mallett
(2)Joe Burrow
(15)Matt Jones
(1)Mark Ingram
(16)Odell Beckham
(8)Jamarr Chase
(9)Jerry Jeudy
(4)Darren McFadden
(13)Julio Jones
(5)Leonard Fournette
(12)Cadillac Williams
(3)Trent Richardson
(14)Todd Gurley
(6)Amari Cooper
(11)AJ Green
(7)Mike Evans
(10)Ronnie Brown
(2)Derrick Henry
(15)Knowshon Moreno
(1)Jonathan Allen
(16)Marcus Spears
(8)Devin White
(9)Josh Allen
(4)Roquan Smith
(13)Derek Barnett
(5)Jarvis Jones
(12)Nick Fairley
(3)Glenn Dorsey
(14)David Pollack
(6)Myles Garrett
(11)Patrick Willis
(7)Jadaveon Clowney
(10)John Henderson
(2)Quinnen Williams
(15)CJ Moseley
(1)Tyrann Mathieu
(16)Derek Stingley Jr.
(8)Dee Milliner
(9)Vernon Hargreaves
(4)Laron Landry
(13)Haha Clinton Dix
(5)Morris Claiborne
(12)Reggie Nelson
(3)Patrick Peterson
(14)Carlos Rogers
(6)Joe Haden
(11)Thomas Davis
(7)Mark Barron
(10)Minkah Fitzpatrick
(2)Eric Berry
(15)Tre'davious White
Posted on 3/27/20 at 3:53 pm to Tigerfan56
quote:
QB REGION
Notes: Obviously we have 4 Heisman winners here, so to seed the top 4 I went off draft selection. Burrow is presumed #1 but since Cam is a known #1 he gets the top seed. Burrow gets #2 because it is practically certain he goes before the 20's where Manziel and Tebow Went.
There were 11 QB's who were top 10 heisman guys. There were no QB's who were consensus AA and not top 10 heisman. So to get QB's 12-16, I used highest NFL draft selections.
(1)Cam Newton
(16)Drew Lock
(8)Eli Manning
(9)Jason Cambell
(4)Tim Tebow
(13)Jamarcus Russell
(5)Tua
(12)Matthew Stafford
(3)Johnny Manziel
(14)Jay Cutler
(6)Rex Grossman
(11)Dak Prescott
(7)AJ McCarron
(10)Ryan Mallett
(2)Joe Burrow
(15)Matt Jones
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RB/WR REGION
Notes: I deviated from the criteria for this region, mainly because heisman voting schews towards RB and it resulted in leaving off some WR's that would not do the bracket justice. If you didn't win the heisman, you had to be a top 32 pick. For this region, heisman winners were seeded first (tiebreaker: NFL draft position) - Henry and Ingram. Next were heisman top 10 finishers and top 32 picks (seeds 3-7). Next tier (7-9) were consensus AA and top 32 picks (Jeudy and Chase have not been top 32 picks yet but I assume both to be at this point). 10-16 were given to the highest drafted players.
(1)Mark Ingram
(16)Odell Beckham
(8)Jamarr Chase
(9)Jerry Jeudy
(4)Darren McFadden
(13)Julio Jones
(5)Leonard Fournette
(12)Cadillac Williams
(3)Trent Richardson
(14)Todd Gurley
(6)Amari Cooper
(11)AJ Green
(7)Mike Evans
(10)Ronnie Brown
(2)Derrick Henry
(15)Knowshon Moreno
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DL/LB Region
Notes: The top 5 were top-10 heisman vote getters
(1)Jonathan Allen
(16)Marcus Spears
(8)Devin White
(9)Josh Allen
(4)Roquan Smith
(13)Derek Barnett
(5)Jarvis Jones
(12)Nick Fairley
(3)Glenn Dorsey
(14)David Pollack
(6)Myles Garrett
(11)Patrick Willis
(7)Jadaveon Clowney
(10)John Henderson
(2)Quinnen Williams
(15)CJ Moseley
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CB/S Region
Notes: Mathieu is the only heisman top 10 finalist
(1)Tyrann Mathieu
(16)Derek Stingley Jr.
(8)Dee Milliner
(9)Vernon Hargreaves
(4)Laron Landry
(13)Haha Clinton Dix
(5)Morris Claiborne
(12)Reggie Nelson
(3)Patrick Peterson
(14)Carlos Rogers
(6)Joe Haden
(11)Thomas Davis
(7)Mark Barron
(10)Minkah Fitzpatrick
(2)Eric Berry
(15)Tre'davious White
Posted on 3/27/20 at 3:55 pm to Plankton
quote:
Plankton
Leave pairings blank if only one of the two are from your own team.
I.E. You would have left both of these blank in the QB section:
quote:
(2)Joe Burrow
(15)Matt Jones
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(4)Tim Tebow
(13)Jamarcus Russell
Posted on 3/27/20 at 3:56 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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That little girl shouldn’t be anywhere near this bracket.
All this hate. How many times did your fiance remark on how cute he was to generate this much ire?
Posted on 3/27/20 at 3:58 pm to skrayper
quote:1. My wife
How many times did your fiance remark on how cute he was to generate this much ire?
2. She is interested in real men, like me
Posted on 3/27/20 at 4:07 pm to WilliamTaylor21
quote:
1. My wife
If memory serves, during most of the football season she wasn't.
quote:
2. She is interested in real men, like me
Posted on 3/27/20 at 4:17 pm to Tigerfan56
(1)Cam Newton
(16)Drew Lock
(8)Eli Manning
(9)Jason Cambell
(4)Tim Tebow
(13)Jamarcus Russell
(5)Tua Tagovailoa
(12)Matthew Stafford
(3)Johnny Manziel
(14)Jay Cutler
(6)Rex Grossman
(11)Dak Prescott
(7)AJ McCarron
(10)Ryan Mallett
(2)Joe Burrow
(15)Matt Jones
1)Mark Ingram
(16)Odell Beckham
(8)Jamarr Chase
(9)Jerry Jeudy
(4)Darren McFadden
(13)Julio Jones
(5)Leonard Fournette
(12)Cadillac Williams
(3)Trent Richardson
(14)Todd Gurley
(6)Amari Cooper
(11)AJ Green
(7)Mike Evans
(10)Ronnie Brown
(2)Derrick Henry
(15)Knowshon Moreno
(1)Jonathan Allen
(16)Marcus Spears
(8)Devin White
(9)Josh Allen
(4)Roquan Smith
(13)Derek Barnett
(5)Jarvis Jones
(12)Nick Fairley
(3)Glenn Dorsey
(14)David Pollack
(6)Myles Garrett
(11)Patrick Willis
(7)Jadaveon Clowney
(10)John Henderson
(2)Quinnen Williams
(15)CJ Moseley
1)Tyrann Mathieu
(16)Derek Stingley Jr.
(8)Dee Milliner
(9)Vernon Hargreaves
(4)Laron Landry
(13)Haha Clinton Dix
(5)Morris Claiborne
(12)Reggie Nelson
(3)Patrick Peterson
(14)Carlos Rogers
(6)Joe Haden
(11)Thomas Davis
(7)Mark Barron
(10)Minkah Fitzpatrick
(2)Eric Berry
(15)Tre'davious White
(16)Drew Lock
(8)Eli Manning
(9)Jason Cambell
(4)Tim Tebow
(13)Jamarcus Russell
(5)Tua Tagovailoa
(12)Matthew Stafford
(3)Johnny Manziel
(14)Jay Cutler
(6)Rex Grossman
(11)Dak Prescott
(7)AJ McCarron
(10)Ryan Mallett
(2)Joe Burrow
(15)Matt Jones
1)Mark Ingram
(16)Odell Beckham
(8)Jamarr Chase
(9)Jerry Jeudy
(4)Darren McFadden
(13)Julio Jones
(5)Leonard Fournette
(12)Cadillac Williams
(3)Trent Richardson
(14)Todd Gurley
(6)Amari Cooper
(11)AJ Green
(7)Mike Evans
(10)Ronnie Brown
(2)Derrick Henry
(15)Knowshon Moreno
(1)Jonathan Allen
(16)Marcus Spears
(8)Devin White
(9)Josh Allen
(4)Roquan Smith
(13)Derek Barnett
(5)Jarvis Jones
(12)Nick Fairley
(3)Glenn Dorsey
(14)David Pollack
(6)Myles Garrett
(11)Patrick Willis
(7)Jadaveon Clowney
(10)John Henderson
(2)Quinnen Williams
(15)CJ Moseley
1)Tyrann Mathieu
(16)Derek Stingley Jr.
(8)Dee Milliner
(9)Vernon Hargreaves
(4)Laron Landry
(13)Haha Clinton Dix
(5)Morris Claiborne
(12)Reggie Nelson
(3)Patrick Peterson
(14)Carlos Rogers
(6)Joe Haden
(11)Thomas Davis
(7)Mark Barron
(10)Minkah Fitzpatrick
(2)Eric Berry
(15)Tre'davious White
Posted on 3/27/20 at 4:42 pm to Tigerfan56
You have Gurley at a 14 seed, no Nick Chubb, Stafford as a 12 seed, and Devin White as an 8 seed.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 5:22 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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You have Gurley at a 14 seed, no Nick Chubb, Stafford as a 12 seed, and Devin White as an 8 seed.
Chubb never finished top 10 Heisman, wasn’t ever consensus AA, and wasn’t a top 32 pick. He would have had to at least garnered one of those distinctions to even have a chance based on my methodology. It isn’t a perfect system, but I think that’s a fair set of parameters to quickly weed through 20+ years of skill position talent in a conference like we have.
Stafford suffers from never finishing in the top 10 Heisman, which obviously favors QB and thus 10 SEC QB’s have done so - meaning those 10 are automatically higher than him based on my method. He’s the highest seeded of the rest of the group.
Devin White benefitted from being a very high draft choice.
There isn’t a way to please everyone with selections and seeding. Sticking to a fair formula/structure was the best way to remove any bias or individual subjectivity from myself in choosing players.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 5:23 pm to Tigerfan56
I hear you man. You put a lot of work into this which I appreciate it 
It's just weird seeing some of those numbers.
It's just weird seeing some of those numbers.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 5:29 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
quote:
I hear you man. You put a lot of work into this which I appreciate it
Thanks
it was actually a fun diversion from normal quarantine life quote:
It's just weird seeing some of those numbers
Yeah it definitely is. There’s so many studs from this conference in 20+ years. You could probably make an all-pro NFL team off SEC guys who didn’t make this list
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