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re: Best Running Back in SEC History?

Posted on 5/29/22 at 8:10 pm to
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 5/29/22 at 8:10 pm to
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Is it easier or harder to run the football when you mix in the pass?


So in your opinion it will be impossible for any RB to be considered better than Walker, unless they play on a team who's entire focus is on running the ball?

The answer to your question is that it's the same in the long run for both, in different ways.

Do you think it's easier or harder to run the ball when your entire team is built on running the ball? That the reason Georgia only attempted that many passes is because they valued WR's who were better at rush blocking, than running routes and catching the ball. That they used less WR in favor of more bigger bodies on the line. That their TE were mostly blocking TE, not pass catching TE. That when it comes to playing the position, Walker didn't need to learn how to read a blitz in order to properly pass block.

The entire Georgia offense was built for the success of 1 person. Yet you and others for some reason try to pass this off as being a disadvantage.

70% of Derrick Henry's yards came after first contact. Who knows what kind of things he could have done if the entire team was focused solely on his success. Instead, he's got WR who are pretty good at blocking, it's a pride thing at Alabama from the old days, but they are recruited based on their route running, speed and pass catching abilities.

Instead of recruiting lineman who's main focus is run blocking, Henry ran behind a line who also got recruited on their ability to pass block. Instead of only run blocking TE, ones that can run routes and catch are also recruited. And on and on.

At the end of the day, a really heavy passing team might buy a RB a few good carries. But by the time you get into the number of carries these guys are getting, no. It's a numbers game, and while 1 style may have guys blocking the CB, and another style may have the CB running deep or away from the play, the bottom line is that the CB was taken care of by the offense.

And how about the biggest factor in difficulty, the opponents you are playing? Does that factor in at all for you?
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 8:15 pm
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 5/29/22 at 8:15 pm to
Tldnr
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 5/29/22 at 8:17 pm to
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Tldnr


Doesn't matter, you wouldn't be able to respond anyway.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
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Posted on 5/29/22 at 8:18 pm to
His hair is disgusting. All I got
Posted by meansonny
ATL
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Posted on 5/29/22 at 8:19 pm to
Im guessing that you typed all of that and avoided of answering the question if running the football with a more balanced passing attack is easier or harder.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30787 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 8:20 pm to
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His hair is disgusting. All I got




That turd hanging out the back of his helmet is the secret of the stiff arm, provides him extra balance.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30787 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 8:21 pm to
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Im guessing that you typed all of that and avoided of answering the question if running the football with a more balanced passing attack is easier or harder.


I'm guessing coloring books are more your speed.
Posted by qman91
Member since Jan 2021
1962 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 8:38 pm to
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But was his one great year really that much better than anything we've seen?
Yes yes it was and the numbers say so. No other SEC RB ran for that many rushing yards and that many rushing TD's in a season so therefore it was better than anything we've ever seen

And here's a quick fact for ya, that one great year you speak of was the most difficult schedule a national championship winning team ever played in NCAA history. Of those 15 teams Bama played, 14 had a winning record and 13 played in bowl games so yeah he did so something we've never seen before while playing an all time difficult schedule.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 5/29/22 at 8:41 pm to
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that one great year you speak of was the most difficult schedule a national championship winning team ever played in NCAA history.

Posted by Pauldingtiger
Alabama
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 5/29/22 at 8:43 pm to
Most of these guys never played in the SEC so Herschel and Bo . Two greatest of all of college football.
Posted by qman91
Member since Jan 2021
1962 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 8:52 pm to
Google is your friend bro you can research and see:

Alabama's opponents had a 134-49 combined record for a 73% combined winning percentage (not counting head-to-head games against Alabama): the highest opponent combined winning percentage of any national championship team in NCAA history.
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 8:56 pm
Posted by PurpleandGeauld
Florence, TX
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/29/22 at 8:58 pm to
Pretty sure Herschel would have averaged 3,000 yds a season in the Big12.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
18152 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 9:09 pm to
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Google is your friend bro you can research and see:

Alabama's opponents had a 134-49 combined record for a 73% combined winning percentage (not counting head-to-head games against Alabama): the highest opponent combined winning percentage of any national championship team in NCAA history.


It's really strange that no one wants to give Henry the credit he deserves. I wonder if it has anything to do with the team he played for?
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 9:12 pm to
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Google is your friend bro you can research and see:

Alabama's opponents had a 134-49 combined record for a 73% combined winning percentage (not counting head-to-head games against Alabama): the highest opponent combined winning percentage of any national championship team in NCAA history.



Y'all only played 2 teams that finished ranked in the CFP top 10.
Posted by qman91
Member since Jan 2021
1962 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 9:18 pm to
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Y'all only played 2 teams that finished ranked in the CFP top 10. ?
Funny that you only bring up the CFP poll when 7 of Alabama's opponents were ranked in the final AP Poll (#2 Clemson, #6 Michigan State, #10 Ole Miss, #16 LSU, #21 Wisconsin, #22 Tennessee, #25 Florida). In the final Coaches Poll, 8 of Alabama's opponents were ranked (the same teams as in the AP plus #24 Georgia). Plus Two conference champions (Big 10 and ACC) were defeated in the Playoffs by Alabama.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 9:19 pm to
Well if the AP matters 2019 LSU had 5 finish in the top 10 (not just ranked, top 10).
Posted by qman91
Member since Jan 2021
1962 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 9:22 pm to
Ok cool
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 9:23 pm to
So you agree with me.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11100 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 9:26 pm to
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Yes, yes it was and the numbers say so.


This is always a subjective argument. The majority of the college world disagrees on this. You could certainly argue that Henry played behind a much superior Oline compared to Bo and Herschel. This goes on and on. You did have a passing game. Ridley had a really good freshman year. Herschel had very little of one. The numbers don't always tell the whole story. But if we're talking numbers, Walker certainly has no problem there.

And as far as the whole sitting behind someone, we've already seen ignorance shown by you young snappers not knowing Sanders sat behind an NFL HOFer. Your football knowledge is limited.
Posted by qman91
Member since Jan 2021
1962 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 9:26 pm to
About the LSU thing sure why not, unlike some of the guys in this thread I don't diminish what great players and great teams accomplish just because of personal bias
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