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re: Best Running Back in SEC History?

Posted on 5/29/22 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by Knowshon5Dolla
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2021
1738 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 12:31 pm to
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Strawman for strawman. Tit for tat.


Good grief.
Posted by LSUtiger89
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
4129 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 12:31 pm to
If we are using your logic then Joe Burrow is the Best SEC quarterback ever. Maybe even best college quarterback ever!

Don’t go moving the goalpost now!
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30735 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 12:33 pm to
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If we are using your logic then Joe Burrow is the Best SEC quarterback ever. Maybe even best college quarterback ever!

Don’t go moving the goalpost now!



I'm not a Joe Burrow hater, so you're gonna need to save your angst for someone else.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30735 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 12:37 pm to
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Links supporting your claim


You asked if there were groups of people who think Barry Sanders is the best college RB ever.

There are, I told you where to find them.

Hell, just go find a poll where the question is asked and look at all the votes he will get. And then as I said, if you read any comments, they'll be talking about all purpose yards.

If you want to believe otherwise, I don't care. I'm not sure why your panties are in a wad about it really.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30735 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 12:43 pm to
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Coker passing yards against Clemson: 335
Belue passing yards against ND: 7
Separated shoulder: yes for Herschel, no for Henry


By this kind of shitty logic, if you put the exact same Hershel Walker on 2015 Alabama, you would disqualify him as the best RB ever.

Not based on talent, not based on what they accomplished, but solely based on the team around them and the era the game is being played in.

In fact, by this logic it's impossible that anyone is ever a better RB than Walker because according to people like you, before you can even qualify for the discussion, you have to play in an era where running the ball is valued more than passing the ball.

When the exact same player wouldn't be allowed to qualify in another era, you've got a problem with your statements.


This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Neyland TheGreat
Knoxville
Member since May 2022
953 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 1:03 pm to
BS....if Tebow played for Vanderbilt no one would barely remember him.

Tim Tebow was a GREAT player. BUT he also played in the perfect system under the perfect coach for him surrounded by elite talent to highlight his strong points and mask his average arm talent.

The guy was a winner though so im not taking anything away from him. But football is a team sport. To say he was the best ever is crazy.

The NFL proves who is really the best talent and work ethic wise. You can say oh but it has nothing to do with what they did in college. BS.

Because the NFL forces you to compete with the absolute best and it seperates the average talent big number system guys in college from the REAL ballers.

So i always include NFL results when i analyze players. Because i look at it as if im assembling an all star team i want the best of the best period.

And at the QB position....Tim Tebow is no where near the best. No one wanted him in the NFL as their QB. No one. Hell of a baller at the college level, but no where close to one of the best QBs ever.
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 1:20 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 1:09 pm to
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Coker passing yards against Clemson: 335 Belue passing yards against ND: 7


This is a dumb argument considering Belue played in an era of the game where three yards and a cloud of dust was the #1 recipe for offenses in the SEC. Offenses in 2015 and on into the present are so much more versatile than they were in 1980. Partly due to rule changes, partly due to innovation. Either way, Coker and Belue were playing football in such vastly different eras that it wasn’t the same sport in many ways.
Posted by Pulpwood Patterson
Member since Dec 2017
1799 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 1:21 pm to
Walker had 13,500 yards rushing as a pro, So far Henry hasn’t eclipsed 7000. yards in the NFL. What are the chances he gets there?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38184 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 1:24 pm to
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By this kind of shitty logic, if you put the exact same Hershel Walker on 2015 Alabama, you would disqualify him as the best RB ever.


Well, the idea accepts that Walker would have started his first 2 years and Coker doesn’t have those stats with walker running.
Posted by Neyland TheGreat
Knoxville
Member since May 2022
953 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 1:26 pm to
Burrow was a HELL of a college QB. He ranks up there as the best of the best imo.

As far as SEC qbs go it's easily Manning and Burrow.

The rest are just big number system guys.

Well, we can add Cam Newton as well. These are the three most talented and overall best SEC QBs in recent history that i can think of.

Johnny Manzeil was electric running around, but overall talent and work ethnic wise he is nowhere near the best. Neither is Tebow who thrived in the perfect offense with Bama like talent and elite coaching.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38184 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 1:26 pm to
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You asked if there were groups of people who think Barry Sanders is the best college RB ever. There are, I told you where to find them.


Gotcha. So your example is nothing but nameless clueless randoms. Thanks for playing.
Posted by Neyland TheGreat
Knoxville
Member since May 2022
953 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 1:27 pm to
Burrow in those final playoff games was probably the most clutch college QB performance i ever saw in my lifetime.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30735 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 1:40 pm to
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Gotcha. So your example is nothing but nameless clueless randoms. Thanks for playing.


That you think people who write clickbait articles are not clueless is funny in itself.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30735 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 1:41 pm to
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Well, the idea accepts that Walker would have started his first 2 years and Coker doesn’t have those stats with walker running.


No, he wouldn't have started his first 2 years because he would have needed to learn how to pass block and play in a modern offense rather than just follow the 9 blockers you have on every play.
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 1:42 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 1:49 pm to
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Walker had 13,500 yards rushing as a pro


I'm sure if Derrick Henry were to drop down to the USFL he could rack up gimmie yards as well.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 1:52 pm to
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Good grief

I never once said UGA couldn't or shouldn't claim 1980 but you went off anyhow. So yeah, good grief, indeed.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 1:53 pm to
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By this kind of shitty logic, if you put the exact same Hershel Walker on 2015 Alabama, you would disqualify him as the best RB ever.

Not based on talent, not based on what they accomplished, but solely based on the team around them and the era the game is being played in.

In fact, by this logic it's impossible that anyone is ever a better RB than Walker because according to people like you, before you can even qualify for the discussion, you have to play in an era where running the ball is valued more than passing the ball.

When the exact same player wouldn't be allowed to qualify in another era, you've got a problem with your statements.
quote:

By this kind of shitty logic, if you put the exact same Hershel Walker on 2015 Alabama, you would disqualify him as the best RB ever.

Not based on talent, not based on what they accomplished, but solely based on the team around them and the era the game is being played in.

In fact, by this logic it's impossible that anyone is ever a better RB than Walker because according to people like you, before you can even qualify for the discussion, you have to play in an era where running the ball is valued more than passing the ball.

When the exact same player wouldn't be allowed to qualify in another era, you've got a problem with your statements.

Herschel should've won the Heisman as a freshman, Henry wasn't even the starter yet.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
92243 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 1:54 pm to
Wasn’t the first USFL stronger than this USFL, in terms of competition?

I don’t disagree with what you said, FWIW.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 1:55 pm to
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This is a dumb argument considering Belue played in an era of the game where three yards and a cloud of dust was the #1 recipe for offenses in the SEC. Offenses in 2015 and on into the present are so much more versatile than they were in 1980. Partly due to rule changes, partly due to innovation. Either way, Coker and Belue were playing football in such vastly different eras that it wasn’t the same sport in many ways.

Almost as dumb as saying that Henry > Herschel.
Posted by Neyland TheGreat
Knoxville
Member since May 2022
953 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 1:55 pm to
Anyone comparing Derreck Henry to Herschel Walker is retarded.

Walker was a freak of nature.
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