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re: Best QB of the Big 4 In The West Not Named Marshall
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:43 am to Yintros
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:43 am to Yintros
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Yeah, all of those NFL-caliber QBs that he has produced... Like.. Stafford?
If I had to choose a coach in the SEC to find me a QB and coach him up it'd be Richt without a doubt.
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:43 am to Yintros
And what does that have to do with Richt?
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:46 am to WG_Dawg
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Can sumlin match that?
How long has each been a head coach? Sumlin is 2 for 2 so far. And Kyle Allen will be 3 for 3.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:47 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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I could win 9 games under center at bama
no you couldn't
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:49 am to 3andOut
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How long has each been a head coach?
Why does that matter? My claim was that Richt is unmatched as a QB coach/developer. Seems like having a longer resume and more accolades would only help his cause, not hurt it like you want to make it.
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Sumlin is 2 for 2 so far
Awesome. And Richt has done far more.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:49 am to 3andOut
So he can't match it
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:50 am to 3andOut
I wouldn't call johnny football a huge success for Sumlin. Not his recruit and he wasn't some great pocket passer. Richt developed pocket passing, pro style quarterbacks and Georgia has has consistently had good quarterback play year after year. I don't see how anyone can argue that fact.
ETA not bashing Sumlin or saying he can't developed quarterbacks but he doesn't have a large enough sample size to say he's better than Richt.
ETA not bashing Sumlin or saying he can't developed quarterbacks but he doesn't have a large enough sample size to say he's better than Richt.
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 9:52 am
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:52 am to PortCityTiger82
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I don't see how anyone can argue that fact.
You'll notice it's mostly just a&m fans, who can't accept the fact that someone, somewhere else, is better at something than their guy.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:52 am to PortCityTiger82
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I wouldn't call johnny football a huge success for Sumlin
Who was he a huge success for then?
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Richt developed pocket passing, pro style quarterbacks
One of which has actually accomplished something at the pro level. So I don't see why the style really matters
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 9:53 am
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:54 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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One of which has actually accomplished something at the pro level
Why are A&M fans the only ones clinging to the NFL in this discussion? I (and everyone else) is talking about college QBs.
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So I don't see why the style really matters
Richt also coached a Heisman winning dual threat and led another to SEC POY.
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 9:55 am
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:55 am to WG_Dawg
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Awesome. And Richt has done far more
In much more time... I love Richt dont get me wrong, but Sumlin will put more qbs in the nfl than richt will when its all said and done.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:57 am to WG_Dawg
Because he's touting Richt as better because he develops "pro style" QBs but only one has accomplished something as a pro. I don't see why the style developed should really matter, to me you're better if you can develop dual threat QBs and pocket passers
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:59 am to 3andOut
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but Sumlin will put more qbs in the nfl
I refuse to even talk about this anymore if all you're going to talk about is the NFL.
That is not, and has never been, the focal point of the discussion. Why do you keep bringing up the NFL? Do Richt and Sumlin coach in the NFL?
Posted on 5/20/14 at 10:01 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Because he's touting Richt as better because he develops "pro style" QBs
You realize "pro style" is a type of QB, not necessarily that they played in the pros right? There are pro style QBs in high school.
And most of us, or me at least, are touting Richt based on his resume which I've already outlined.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 10:03 am to WG_Dawg
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You realize "pro style" is a type of QB, not necessarily that they played in the pros right? There are pro style QBs in high school.
Yes, but I don't see why being able to develop a QB in that type of offense automatically makes you a better QB coach
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And most of us, or me at least, are touting Richt based on his resume which I've already outlined.
Right, which was why I originally responded to the other post and none of yours. Richt has been around much longer so it doesn't really make sense to compare at this point
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 10:04 am
Posted on 5/20/14 at 10:04 am to WG_Dawg
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Why do you keep bringing up the NFL?
Because thats the ultimate goal for college players is to make it to the NFL... You are preaching "pro style qbs" and then saying dont worry about the pros...
development of a QB goes beyond college. If you are just developing a kid coming out of high school to just play college ball then you are hurting him. Whats hard to understand about that.
How many Heisman winners was Richt the head coach of?
Posted on 5/20/14 at 10:04 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Yes, but I don't see why being able to develop a QB in that type of offense automatically makes you a better QB coach
It doesn't, and I've only seen one person reference that.
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Richt has been around much longer so it doesn't really make sense to compare at this point
Agree. My first post was responding to the claim that Sumlin is the best QB developer in the country, which is clearly false.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 10:10 am to 3andOut
Your thread makes no sense.
You said Big 4 in the West and then included A&M and left out Ole Miss. Doesn't add up.
You said Big 4 in the West and then included A&M and left out Ole Miss. Doesn't add up.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 10:12 am to 3andOut
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Because thats the ultimate goal for college players is to make it to the NFL
It's actually probably to win a national title but whatever. On the topic of strictly "who is better at coaching/developing QBs", the NFL has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion.
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You are preaching "pro style qbs"
I have never once brought up that argument, that is someone else.
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development of a QB goes beyond college
yes, and lies in teh hands of their NFL coaches.
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How many Heisman winners was Richt the head coach of?
He was directly responsible for coaching 2 of them. You realize he actually works MORE closely with them as just the QB coach as opposed to being a HC and overseeing operations of the entire team right?
Posted on 5/20/14 at 10:14 am to WG_Dawg
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He was directly responsible for coaching 2
Okay so Sumlin will be as good as Richt by 2017. Got it.
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