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Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:44 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
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Buckeye Fan 19
He's dancing on the head of a pin. Read the A.R.'s attached to that rule to see what it actually addresses.
Also, check the play in accordance to 4-2-3a
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A ball not in player possession, other than a kick that scores a field goal, is out of bounds when it touches the ground, a player, a game official or anything else that is on or outside a boundary line.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:46 pm to arrakis
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He's dancing on the head of a pin. Read the A.R.'s attached to that rule to see what it actually addresses.
Also, check the play in accordance to 4-2-3a
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A ball not in player possession, other than a kick that scores a field goal, is out of bounds when it touches the ground, a player, a game official or anything else that is on or outside a boundary line.
But JJ never touched the ball at all during the play so why does this rule even matter?
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:48 pm to mprtiger
He looks like he's touching it at one point in the video. I really want to see a frame by frame of the play from CBS's angle, or the angle most likely used for instant replay.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:49 pm to mprtiger
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But JJ never touched the ball at all during the play so why does this rule even matter?
They're just trying to balance out the whining... but they're choosing a bad play to do it with, because this one is case closed ... everyone knows it was a pick.
It is in fact illegal touching, though, if he touched it while out of bounds, like they are arguing. The rule is very clear.
This post was edited on 11/9/09 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:49 pm to JPLSU1981
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Skimmed over that little word there, eh?
His right foot was out.
He initially touched it in the air, but was still touching it as his right foot landed out of bounds.
Imagine a guy jumping in the air for a ball. He catches it in the air and lands out of bounds. This is not illegal touching, it's an incompletion.
The stipulation about him being "airborne" would be if he ran out of bounds, ran back into play, jumped up to catch a ball, and before he landed, threw it to a teammate who caught it. That's illegal touching. It doesn't apply in this scenario.
You're confused on what that ruling is.
For illegal touching to be called, he has to go out of bounds first. That's the ruling.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:50 pm to CapstoneGrad06
Why are people still arguing about this? Regardless of whether he caught the goddamn ball or not, lsu is stil 7-2 and bama is 9-0. Let it go!
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:51 pm to TheHat
I only feel compelled to find further evidence because some people want to suggest that there is some conspiracy. It was a tough call to make one way or the other. I don't understand why people can't see it for that.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:53 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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It was a tough call to make one way or the other. I don't understand why people can't see it for that.
Because, uh, it wasn't. On the field at full speed, sure, but in the review booth, there's no question. It was a pick. Have you turned on a TV today?
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:54 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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I don't know how anyone can look at that picture and come to the conclusion that Jones somehow touched the ball. It's physically impossible from the positions of both of their bodies and the location of the ball. The stupidity on this board never ceases to amaze me.
not saying he touched it but to say it was physically impossible for him to do so is wrong
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:54 pm to mprtiger
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But JJ never touched the ball at all during the play so why does this rule even matter?
Mr. Rules Guru is trying to apply the wrong rule to his argument. He knows how to search.....he doesn't know how to understand
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:55 pm to CapstoneGrad06
Like I've said before, someone should show a picture where his right foot hit in bounds... His right foot was not down in that picture. He didn't gain possession until his left foot came off the ground, so the right foot is pivotal.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:55 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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It was a tough call to make one way or the other.
This is what I'm saying.
If it was called an INT on the field, it should have stayed an INT. You can't tell with 100% certainty that JJ touches it.
Going the other way, since it was called an incompletion, it should stay that, since you can't tell with 100% certainty he doesn't touch it while out of bounds.
There's not conclusive evidence, either way, that's my point. I'm not arguing that it's clear that JJ touches it, I'm arguing you can't tell he doesn't.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:56 pm to TheHat
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Why are people still arguing about this?
I have just given in, and resorted to disagreeing with anyone who starts any thread like this. I have stated emphatically, along with many other Bama fans, that I thought he caught the ball. Some people just want to argue no matter what...
This post was edited on 11/9/09 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:56 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
Also, I don't think anyone's arguing PP didn't make the catch with at least one foot in bounds. I think everyone acknowledges that.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:56 pm to arrakis
You know damn well that is EXACTLY the rule that applies.
Please stop with your bullshite. Please.
Please stop with your bullshite. Please.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:56 pm to arrakis
quote:I think he just lacks the intellectual capability because his fault has been pointed out over and over again.
He knows how to search.....he doesn't know how to understand
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:58 pm to spacewrangler
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Jones touched the ball first
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:59 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
Seriously, the refs were against LSU all night. If you can't figure out why the SEC would pave the way for a FL-AL matchup in the SECC, then you obviously don't understand why rich assholes can pull major tail. It's all about the $$$$$$$$.
to the AL deny-ers. AU is about to have a lot of new fans in purple and gold. 
Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:02 pm to PurpleArmadillo
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AU is about to have a lot of new fans in purple and gold.
LOL..yeah because the refs have always been good to you at AU...
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