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re: Best picture of PP Interception

Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:44 pm to
Posted by thebearisdead
STB Fairchild AFB Washington
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:44 pm to
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I don't care who you are. That is one funny board name!


, yeah it gets the desired response from some of the more soft-hearted/thin-skinned Gumps...
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:44 pm to
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Buckeye Fan 19


He's dancing on the head of a pin. Read the A.R.'s attached to that rule to see what it actually addresses.

Also, check the play in accordance to 4-2-3a
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A ball not in player possession, other than a kick that scores a field goal, is out of bounds when it touches the ground, a player, a game official or anything else that is on or outside a boundary line.
Posted by mprtiger
Temple, Tx
Member since Jul 2009
1179 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:46 pm to
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He's dancing on the head of a pin. Read the A.R.'s attached to that rule to see what it actually addresses.

Also, check the play in accordance to 4-2-3a

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A ball not in player possession, other than a kick that scores a field goal, is out of bounds when it touches the ground, a player, a game official or anything else that is on or outside a boundary line.

But JJ never touched the ball at all during the play so why does this rule even matter?
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73230 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:48 pm to
He looks like he's touching it at one point in the video. I really want to see a frame by frame of the play from CBS's angle, or the angle most likely used for instant replay.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28232 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:49 pm to
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But JJ never touched the ball at all during the play so why does this rule even matter?






They're just trying to balance out the whining... but they're choosing a bad play to do it with, because this one is case closed ... everyone knows it was a pick.

It is in fact illegal touching, though, if he touched it while out of bounds, like they are arguing. The rule is very clear.
This post was edited on 11/9/09 at 9:50 pm
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36381 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:49 pm to
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Skimmed over that little word there, eh?


His right foot was out.

He initially touched it in the air, but was still touching it as his right foot landed out of bounds.

Imagine a guy jumping in the air for a ball. He catches it in the air and lands out of bounds. This is not illegal touching, it's an incompletion.

The stipulation about him being "airborne" would be if he ran out of bounds, ran back into play, jumped up to catch a ball, and before he landed, threw it to a teammate who caught it. That's illegal touching. It doesn't apply in this scenario.

You're confused on what that ruling is.

For illegal touching to be called, he has to go out of bounds first. That's the ruling.
Posted by TheHat
Delusionville
Member since Feb 2007
3855 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:50 pm to
Why are people still arguing about this? Regardless of whether he caught the goddamn ball or not, lsu is stil 7-2 and bama is 9-0. Let it go!
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73230 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:51 pm to
I only feel compelled to find further evidence because some people want to suggest that there is some conspiracy. It was a tough call to make one way or the other. I don't understand why people can't see it for that.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28232 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:53 pm to
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It was a tough call to make one way or the other. I don't understand why people can't see it for that.


Because, uh, it wasn't. On the field at full speed, sure, but in the review booth, there's no question. It was a pick. Have you turned on a TV today?
Posted by Alabama Slim
Team Massie
Member since Jul 2007
10659 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:54 pm to
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I don't know how anyone can look at that picture and come to the conclusion that Jones somehow touched the ball. It's physically impossible from the positions of both of their bodies and the location of the ball. The stupidity on this board never ceases to amaze me.





not saying he touched it but to say it was physically impossible for him to do so is wrong
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:54 pm to
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But JJ never touched the ball at all during the play so why does this rule even matter?

Mr. Rules Guru is trying to apply the wrong rule to his argument. He knows how to search.....he doesn't know how to understand
Posted by Charles Bronson
WINNING CHAMPIONSHIPS
Member since Nov 2007
11677 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:55 pm to
Like I've said before, someone should show a picture where his right foot hit in bounds... His right foot was not down in that picture. He didn't gain possession until his left foot came off the ground, so the right foot is pivotal.

Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36381 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:55 pm to
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It was a tough call to make one way or the other.


This is what I'm saying.

If it was called an INT on the field, it should have stayed an INT. You can't tell with 100% certainty that JJ touches it.

Going the other way, since it was called an incompletion, it should stay that, since you can't tell with 100% certainty he doesn't touch it while out of bounds.

There's not conclusive evidence, either way, that's my point. I'm not arguing that it's clear that JJ touches it, I'm arguing you can't tell he doesn't.
Posted by Dribble
Hey, nice marmot.
Member since Jun 2008
9576 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:56 pm to
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Why are people still arguing about this?

I have just given in, and resorted to disagreeing with anyone who starts any thread like this. I have stated emphatically, along with many other Bama fans, that I thought he caught the ball. Some people just want to argue no matter what...
This post was edited on 11/9/09 at 9:58 pm
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36381 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:56 pm to
Also, I don't think anyone's arguing PP didn't make the catch with at least one foot in bounds. I think everyone acknowledges that.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28232 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:56 pm to
You know damn well that is EXACTLY the rule that applies.

Please stop with your bullshite. Please.
Posted by Charles Bronson
WINNING CHAMPIONSHIPS
Member since Nov 2007
11677 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:56 pm to
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He knows how to search.....he doesn't know how to understand
I think he just lacks the intellectual capability because his fault has been pointed out over and over again.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28149 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:58 pm to
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Jones touched the ball first
Posted by PurpleArmadillo
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
708 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:59 pm to
Seriously, the refs were against LSU all night. If you can't figure out why the SEC would pave the way for a FL-AL matchup in the SECC, then you obviously don't understand why rich assholes can pull major tail. It's all about the $$$$$$$$.

to the AL deny-ers. AU is about to have a lot of new fans in purple and gold.
Posted by Dribble
Hey, nice marmot.
Member since Jun 2008
9576 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:02 pm to
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AU is about to have a lot of new fans in purple and gold.


LOL..yeah because the refs have always been good to you at AU...
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