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re: Bama's Cam Robinson, Hootie Jones Arrested on Felony stolen handgun and drugs
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:41 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:41 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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I was just trying to justify why they were not charged with tge second felony, since it is clearly stated in Louisiana law.
I hear ya, that's fair.
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:42 pm to Deactived
They were smoking weed. The difference is if they had smoked all the weed they had, then it is just residue. If they still had some left, then it is possession of a controlled substance.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:43 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
The reports I've read have said "bag of marijuana." They're either misleading reports or this "residue" thing is a load of shite.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:45 pm to JustGetItRight
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Wonder if that is playing a role in why they aren't being reported as facing a felony for having the guns and weed together?
No.
That only applies in Orleans Parish, not the rest of the state. And THEN it only applies if you are picked up by the NOPD, and not a sheriff's deputy.
shite gets complicated when the laws haven't all caught up to one another, but there's one thing to remember:
Cannabis is still ILLEGAL in ALL 50 states.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:46 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Cannabis is still ILLEGAL in ALL 50 states.
Technically.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:46 pm to Deactived
Put 2&2 together
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:47 pm to Guava Jelly
"The reports I've read have said "bag of marijuana." They're either misleading reports or this "residue" thing is a load of shite."
To the judge, the difference between the two would probably make a big difference. So it is hard to determine until it is confirmed.
To the judge, the difference between the two would probably make a big difference. So it is hard to determine until it is confirmed.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:47 pm to Funky Tide 8
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I just highly doubt that they would hold the charge because they need to "test it." If it looks and smells like weed, cops aren't going to wait for lab tests.
I agree it's weird as frick but there isn't a whole lot of options here. The statute is pretty clear, if you are in possession of marijuana and a gun it's a 5-10 felony. No "if it's less than 30 grams" or anything, just 5-10. Some statutes allow the charge to be either a felony or misdemeanor depending on circumstances, but as it's written this isn't one of them.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:48 pm to Funky Tide 8
I spoke to my neighbor about this case. He is an assistant district attorney. He said more than likely the drug charges and stolen weapon charge (provided he gives a reasonable answer to where the gun came from) will be dropped. That leaves possession of a firearm by a minor. If the two have clean backgrounds they will get a fine and probation.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:49 pm to bbap
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It's just hard to wrap your head around. You are going to be a Top 10 pick. Why in the hell do you need a stolen handgun. It amazes me the decisions some kids make.
what kind of fricking environment are these guys in that football players, albeit big and dumb, find the need to arm themselves to go to the park and burn one? It must be a free fire zone . I go to the drag races in West Monroe, actually south of there, and never see anything happening there requiring a firearm. I may be wrong but this may fall under mandatory jail time.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:50 pm to graves1
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I spoke to my neighbor about this case. He is an assistant district attorney. He said more than likely the drug charges and stolen weapon charge (provided he gives a reasonable answer to where the gun came from) will be dropped. That leaves possession of a firearm by a minor. If the two have clean backgrounds they will get a fine and probation.
Wow, really? That would be quite a drop from felony jail time to probation and a fine.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:51 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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WildTchoupitoulas
Those amounts make a WHOLE lot more sense. The story from yesterday obviously had the wrong amounts.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:51 pm to graves1
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That leaves possession of a firearm by a minor.
Wait, I thought that you only have to be 18 to possess a handgun in LA?
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:53 pm to SummerOfGeorge
This is the norm. Granted the cases he has been involved in do not have college football stars.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:53 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Wow, really? That would be quite a drop from felony jail time to probation and a fine.
I really wouldn't find that to be out of the ordinary for a first-time, non-violent offense. As long as he didn't personally steal the gun and thought he had a legal gun, they will probably plead him down and that wouldn't surprise me in the least.
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:54 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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"The reports I've read have said "bag of marijuana." They're either misleading reports or this "residue" thing is a load of shite."
To the judge, the difference between the two would probably make a big difference. So it is hard to determine until it is confirmed.
Residue could mean field testing came up positive. Cops carry kits that allow them to see if something is an illegal drug. It's not an official result that can be used in court, but it's good enough for an arrest. The cop can't definitively say that bag of green stuff is weed until it's been lab tested, but he can say that it contains marijuana residue.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:54 pm to Funky Tide 8
Technically in Louisiana this is true. At 18 years old, you can purchase a handgun in private sale. i.e. from another person. The handgun can also be legally gifted to someone by a parent or guardian if that person is atleast 18 years of age. This is the handgun loop hole.
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:54 pm to Funky Tide 8
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cops aren't going to wait for lab tests.
They didn't, as the charge is clearly on their report.
The DA waits for the lab tests for the arraignment to make sure that the charges he's bringing are correct.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:54 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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No.
That only applies in Orleans Parish, not the rest of the state. And THEN it only applies if you are picked up by the NOPD, and not a sheriff's deputy.
shite gets complicated when the laws haven't all caught up to one another, but there's one thing to remember:
Cannabis is still ILLEGAL in ALL 50 states.
Ok, I took the post to mean that was a state law change.
So the question as to why that charge isn't listed as a felony is still unanswered.
And again, they absolutely committed crimes. That isn't in question at all.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:55 pm to Deactived
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If they weren't sitting there smoking weed, wtf were they doing?
Hand jive.
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