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Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 1:52 pm to
Ignore feature is much needed.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 1:52 pm to
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wasn't he unemployed???


These are the people who are opining over Johnson's record and performance in the NBA. People who don't even know he was on TV talking about the NBA every night.

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 1:54 pm to
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I seriously doubt he does this early on with yall. Especially after the Duke comment.

4 man motion offense relies heavily on screens and dribble drives. You need a 7 footer if you're going to put a PF on the perimeter and you need talented guards that can come off ball screens and get in the paint in 1-2 dribbles.

I'd bet my 401k yall are in a 3 man set like Duke of previous years.



I would think he'd make adjustments based on the college game and specifically our personel (which won't feature a premier scorer like he had in Dallas or like some other college programs that run iso have had), but I've read some of his stuff and watched philosophical interviews with him and he clearly likes having an identified guy who he trusts at the end of the shot clock to make a play if needed.

With that said, the 24 second clock in the NBA necessitates that a lot more than the college game, even if they drop it to 30.

I'm just really curious about everything, to be honest. It should be interesting.
Posted by narddogg81
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 1:54 pm to
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Yet the Nets recorded didn't immediately improve after firing Calipari. This compares to the coach who replaced Avery Johnson almost doubling his winning percentage
who are you referring to, carlisimo the year AJ was fired? because technically the team was already at .500 when he took over and he raised it to .598, and was not retained. the next coach was jason kidd, who had a record of .537 for his only season, and the current coach is at .468 this season. he showed a steady progression of improving the team from the dreadful low of .146 the season before he came, to .293 his first season, .333 his second season, and .500 his third season when he was let go. you really are the worst poster on the entire site
Posted by auburnphan23
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 1:56 pm to
Jesus Christ you bammer idiots are the kings of picking out selective stats. Avery Johnson won 30 or 35 percent of his total games with the Nets. The guy who followed him won 60 or 65 percent of his games
This post was edited on 4/8/15 at 1:57 pm
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 1:56 pm to
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who are you referring to, carlisimo the year AJ was fired? because technically the team was already at .500 when he took over and he raised it to .598, and was not retained. the next coach was jason kidd, who had a record of .537 for his only season, and the current coach is at .468 this season. he showed a steady progression of improving the team from the dreadful low of .146 the season before he came, to .293 his first season, .333 his second season, and .500 his third season when he was let go. you really are the worst poster on the entire site


Well when the HC of your team is a disgraced liar like Bruce Pearl, being fast and loose with the facts tends to come natural.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 1:58 pm to
Well if that's his style then you can bank on him going after a premier scorer for next year's class.

Being an NBA guy, I figure he'll be just fine with the 1 and done types, unlike Mr. Bo Ryan.
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 1:58 pm to
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Rick Carlisle's first 3 years in Dallas
2008-2009 : 50-32 (lost in 2nd round)
2009-2010 : 55-27 (lost in 1st round)
2010-2011 : 57-25 (Won NBA Finals)
Total : 162-84, 1 NBA Title, 3 Playoffs


The bar was set a little low then. And winning with guys like Kidd who was past his prime, Barea who was a suprise, and Cardinal who was lucking out from 3 ( ) is a better job than what Johnson did with a lot of guys with prime years.
Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 1:58 pm to
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Bammers talking about Bruce Pearl's coaching ability is more proof of how retarded your fan base is. He is more successful than any basketball coach bammer has ever had


Um no, not yet. At the D-1 level, his career winning percentage is just ever so slightly worse than Wimp Sanderson's career percentage.

At this point into (11 seasons) their careers, his winning percentage is worse than Wimp's. He also has 1 less tourney appearance at the same point in their careers than Wimp. Further, his first season at Auburn was worse (42.8% wins) than any Wimp had in is entire career.

Pearl has an elite-8, which Wimp did not, but by all other measures Wimp was at least on a par if not more successful at this point in their careers.

Now, if you want to go 'well he got further', sure did. He got there in his 9th season as a D-1 coach - a guy named Mark Gottfried did too. Maybe you know where he was coaching when he did it.

To all the SANE Aubies - I think Pearl's a great coach and the ceiling's very high for y'all. I just had to address phan's usual idiotic utterances.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 1:59 pm to
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His "failure" in Dallas was going 16-2, 60-22, 67-15, 51-31, an overall record of 192-70. He won 74% of his games. He was fired in Dallas because his style started getting under guys skin and he got bumped early in some playoff series. If he wins 74% of his games in Tuscaloosa, makes a run or two and loses to a few lower seeds in some early rounds, I will be perfectly content. This built around superstars thing.........you aren't going to stop making that up, are you? Check out Fox Sports South sometime soon. You have a team in your backyard with the 2nd best record in the NBA with nary a "super-star" on the roster.


Great roster, weak Conference and he was fired after losing in the first round two straight years.

The Hawks are an exception not the rule, but anyone who knows the NBA, knows it is built around the superstars. Keep screaming at the top of the tower, someone might hear you.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 2:00 pm to
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Jesus Christ you bammer idiots are the kings of picking out selective stats. Avery Johnson won 30 or 35 percent of his total games with the Nets. The guy who followed him won 60 or 65 percent of his gamest



You realize the Nets roster his last year was about 200x better than the Nets roster his first 2 years, right? They purposely had no salary on the books so they could sign LeBron. Then they didn't sign LeBron and they had a bunch of money to spend so they signed/traded for Gerald Wallace, Andray Blatche, Joe Johnson, etc. It was almost an entirely different team.

Nevermind, no, you don't know that.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 2:01 pm to
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he Hawks are an exception not the rule, but anyone who knows the NBA, knows it is built around the superstars. Keep screaming at the top of the tower, someone might hear you.


Atlanta - #1 seed East
Toronto - #3/4 seed East
Indiana 2014 - #1 seed East
Memphis - #3 seed West
Portland - #4 seed West

Posted by Robin Masters
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 2:04 pm to
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Great roster, weak Conference and he was fired after losing in the first round two straight years.


Western Conference has won 75% of the last 15 NBA finals. Sounds like they are the strong conference to me.
This post was edited on 4/8/15 at 2:07 pm
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 2:05 pm to
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Great roster, weak Conference and he was fired after losing in the first round two straight years


Dear god make the idiocy stop
Posted by Alabamya
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 2:05 pm to
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he clearly likes having an identified guy who he trusts at the end of the shot clock to make a play if needed.


Rick Tarrant gonna eat!
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 2:05 pm to
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The bar was set a little low then. And winning with guys like Kidd who was past his prime, Barea who was a suprise, and Cardinal who was lucking out from 3 ( ) is a better job than what Johnson did with a lot of guys with prime years.


Jason Terry was 30-33, Shaw Marion 29-32, Dirk 29-32, Tyson Chandler came on board, Peja at 33, the Josh Howard experiment was still around.

I mean, I love Carlisle, I think he's really good. But lets not act like he had a roster put together by paper clips and duct tape.
This post was edited on 4/8/15 at 2:07 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 2:06 pm to
I assume you're referring to the Grizz. Marc Gasol was an all star who averages nearly a double double per game.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 2:07 pm to
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The bar was set a little low then. And winning with guys like Kidd who was past his prime, Barea who was a suprise, and Cardinal who was lucking out from 3 ( ) is a better job than what Johnson did with a lot of guys with prime years.


Huge difference between the 2 rosters: DPOY Tyson Chandler
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 2:07 pm to
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auburnphan23


Your Alabama obsession is out of control. When you wallow in your opponent/rival's perceived failing(s) more than your team's success(es),its sort of pitiful.

I'm by no means a Tide fan,but you make me look like Shorty Price.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 2:08 pm to
the western conference is far from weak
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