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re: Auburn Shooting Thread (Updated 6-12) Suspect in Custody

Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:46 pm to
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:46 pm to
We're really not used to murders happening in Auburn. I've lived here for going on 12 years.
Posted by ALcapone
Member since Nov 2010
3828 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:46 pm to
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If we remove football from the equation is this a death penalty case or just another homicide in the hood ?




:inb4univheightsisntthehood:
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:47 pm to
quote:

bullshite


My exact quote was "(whatever the guys name was) needs to be banned for bumping this. 77 posts. "
This post was edited on 6/10/12 at 6:49 pm
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:48 pm to
quote:

If we remove football from the equation is this a death penalty case or just another homicide in the hood ?

They would be capital murder warrants anywhere in Alabama 3 people are killed at a party consisting of mostly local college students. Also, this didn't happen in the hood.

Ultimately, I have doubts whether it will be a death penalty case if the stories about the fight are true.
Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
Member since Jan 2009
27604 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:49 pm to
Go back and reread the post I made. I was advocating for the speculation to stop.

Take 10 deep breaths and reread it again.

See?

Oh, and my name was drug through for trash like this a while back. It is what it is.
Posted by thatguy1892
That place you wish you were.
Member since Aug 2011
4629 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:49 pm to
My father was asking the same thing. I don't know if it has been covered or not. But I think at the PC they said he was a resident so I don't think so.
Posted by wdeinttown
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2011
2976 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:49 pm to
The NYT's Pete Thamel and Michael Schwirtz are catching a lot of flack over this article about the shooting.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:50 pm to
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Ultimately, I have doubts whether it will be a death penalty case if the stories about the fight are true.


Agreed. Death penalty would be hard to sell to a jury when a fight was involved. He is probably looking at life, depending on how the facts turn out.
Posted by jso0003
Member since Jun 2009
5170 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:51 pm to
quote:

He's quoting Aristotle. It's an important concept in the way our legal system is structured. FWIW.


wow really?

Alright let's slow it down this time. Go back and read my post where you will notice how I made light of the fact that he is painfully ignorant of what happened this weekend.

The point being: "reason without passion" comes off a little trite when your "reason" is based on what you've read on Bamaonline and al.com


Posted by KillianRussell
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
7319 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:51 pm to
Homicide in the hood was simply a euphemism.
Posted by jso0003
Member since Jun 2009
5170 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:52 pm to
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Agreed. Death penalty would be hard to sell to a jury when a fight was involved. He is probably looking at life, depending on how the facts turn out.


Death penalty in AL is more geared towards if the victim is much younger or much older.
Posted by Bellabama
Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent
Member since Nov 2009
30878 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:53 pm to
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Alright let's slow it down this time. Go back and read my post where you will notice how I made light of the fact that he is painfully ignorant of what happened this weekend.

The point being: "reason without passion" comes off a little trite when your "reason" is based on what you've read on Bamaonline and al.com




There's really no reason to be sarcastic or ugly.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:53 pm to
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The NYT's Pete Thamel and Michael Schwirtz are catching a lot of flack over this article about the shooting.


They should catch some flack. No reason to mention point shaving or the robbery in that article.
Posted by BamaFan89
T-Town
Member since Dec 2009
19302 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

As a firearm proponent I have a special, irrational anger for those who do shite like this.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:54 pm to
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The NYT's Pete Thamel and Michael Schwirtz are catching a lot of flack over this article about the shooting.

I read halfway through the article and wondered why they were catching flack, but the inclusion of the Varez Ward incident and the felony 4 doesn't seem appropriate right now. According to the police, the only connection AU athletics has to this event are that its former players and a current player were victims of senseless violence.

Very little if any correlation to the other referenced incidents and can easily been interpreted as somewhat disrespectful to the victims of this crimes to tie the three together for no apparent reason.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

Death penalty in AL is more geared towards if the victim is much younger or much older.


What?
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38718 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:54 pm to
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I never claimed it was an Auburn player who hit him with a bottle. There was a posting from the Montgomery Advertiser that has an eye-witness account saying Auburn players were involved in the fight, but that story has been taken down.


That story didn't say that AT ALL.

It said that there were "words" with Auburn football players.

And then it said that a fight started.

It never once said that Auburn football players started or were involved in a fight.

But you took A and added B and inferred C, which was never written or even implied.

Which is why I agree with you that this isn't about Auburn or Bama... but you're "reach" in trying to imply something about current and former Auburn football players that was never stated or written or even implied sure makes me think its about you being a Bama fan.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293440 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:55 pm to
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quote:
Whether it will be enough to convict him of a crime is something else.

I'd be shocked if he weren't convicted of a crime.



Based on the number of victims, I have very very little doubt he will be convicted of a crime. 6 people don't go down without some amount of of negligence.
Posted by auburnu008
I am the bagman
Member since Feb 2010
19507 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:57 pm to
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Which is why I agree with you that this isn't about Auburn or Bama... but you're "reach" in trying to imply something about current and former Auburn football players that was never stated or written or even implied sure makes me think its about you being a Bama fan.


Isn't it funny that the only ones who are telling people to calm down and defending the shooter's case are Bama fans?
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38718 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:00 pm to
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Isn't it funny that the only ones who are telling people to calm down and defending the shooter's case are Bama fans?


If they want to recommend stepping back and letting the justice system do its work, I'm OK with that.

The only person I have a problem with in the latter part of this thread is the guy who has tried to make the case that Auburn football players were involved in the fight even though ZERO sources have stated or even rumored that (even the source he sites never said such a thing, its just that his reading comprehension is so poor that seems to be what he though it said).
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