re: Auburn Shooting Thread (Updated 6-12) Suspect in Custody

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Why? I feel for the victims and there is no reason this should have happened over some dumb girl. The gunman being hit with beer bottles changes this story big time and it is a valid topic since all we are doing is speculating at this point anyways.

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Still waiting for you to provide a source, ANY source (rumor or not), that claims that it was an Auburn football player that hit the guy over the head with a bottle as YOU have claimed.

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Not gonna disagree. I still don't understand why he needed a gun that could shoot fast enough to sound like firecrackers at an apartment party.

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It's extremely difficult to hit two people with a handgun if you are trained, when in a confrontational situation. No way in hell he targeted and hit six people who were all threats to him. If you don't know what you are doing with a gun, don't carry one. I highly suspect this is going to be the case.

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Shooting into a crowded room filled with college students is likely not a reasonable response and unlikely to result in an acquittal based on self defense

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I agree however the preceeding moments may warrant a reduction in the charge, sending it to trial as a non death penalty case.

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This isn't a court of law and I am not one of the jurors; I am completely free and within my right to form an opinion of what happened.

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It's pretty obvious what happened. Whether it will be enough to convict him of a crime is something else. As a firearm proponent I have a special, irrational anger for those who do shite like this.

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As a firearm proponent I have a special, irrational anger for those who do shite like this.

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Same here.

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But shooting into a crowd usually is not. Based on the reports out, it appears the non-football player who was killed is the one that struck the shooter with a beer bottle.

Shooting into a crowded room filled with college students is likely not a reasonable response and unlikely to result in an acquittal based on self defense. JMO.

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Agreed for the most part. It seems the lawyers in the room are speaking an entirely different language than the non-attorneys (and understandably so). When I say self defense is a possibility, I am speaking in legal technicalities and not in any way implying that the football players deserved to die. Any attorney understands exactly what I mean.

this is not about football! get it people!!!!!

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Reason free from passion?



He's quoting Aristotle. It's an important concept in the way our legal system is structured. FWIW.

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I believe I get this. Basically it is saying the process of justice must be void of emotion and bias. It must be based on fact and rule of law. Am I correct?

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Whether it will be enough to convict him of a crime is something else.

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I'd be shocked if he weren't convicted of a crime. His attorney's primary objective will be to avoid the death penalty. Allowing him to live part of the rest of life outside of prison will be a bonus in terms of a legal win.

Obviously, there is always a defense to be spun, but I don't give this guy much of a chance.

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Still waiting for you to provide a source, ANY source (rumor or not), that claims that it was an Auburn football player that hit the guy over the head with a bottle as YOU have claimed.

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I never claimed it was an Auburn player who hit him with a bottle. There was a posting from the Montgomery Advertiser that has an eye-witness account saying Auburn players were involved in the fight, but that story has been taken down. Now reports are saying Christian tried to break it up. Either way, I don't think there is any doubt that some innocent people died, regardless of whether the gunman can claim self defense. A tragic day no doubt.