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re: Auburn Shooting Thread (Updated 6-12) Suspect in Custody
Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:35 pm to Bellabama
Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:35 pm to Bellabama
Exactly. It's not hard to make accounts on burn phones and post things to mislead either. Or hand a phone to a friend and have them log into your account while you're somewhere else. There's a clear line between TV:CSI detectives on here, and actual folks that have been around the real thing and know what has to occur in an investigation.
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:36 pm to Bellabama
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It's not about the person who did it, or that it's a joke. It's about how much chaos those things might cause in the future if people think they can just start fake twitter accounts.
And if those tweets caused chaos at the scene last night and somehow made the cops second guess whether or not he was there then the investigators in this case should all be shot for gross incompetence. We all were laughing our asses off in here last night because we have a sense of humor and could tell the person behind those tweets with 100% certainty was some random guy/girl having fun. It was in poor taste, sure, but it was still funny.
This post was edited on 6/12/12 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:36 pm to RollTide1987
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They don't need to check because police have already seen his Facebook. That's how they knew he was in the Montgomery area in the first place. He had logged onto Facebook yesterday.
Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:37 pm to Alahunter
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Anyone reading that twitter account last night knew instantly that it wasn't the suspect. If the Montgomery Police Department took that twitter account seriously and spent time and money investigating it then they are idiots. No wonder the dude got away last night.
They should have known it was fake when they saw the word "asbestos" not only used but spelled correctly.
Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:37 pm to RollTide1987
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Anyone reading that twitter account last night knew instantly that it wasn't the suspect. If the Montgomery Police Department took that twitter account seriously and spent time and money investigating it then they are idiots. No wonder the dude got away last night
This...unless America really is a police state.
Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:38 pm to Alahunter
If they got information from his old facebook, who's to say he won't start a new one? What someone started a new facebook or twitter, pretending they were him, saying he'd left and gone to Atlanta, what then? What if five people do that?
What if he starts a new twitter, pretending to make jokes as a fake Woosie, and then says something serious or looks for help? And what if people know it's him?
I don't understand why people don't have more common sense as to why people make these sorts of things illegal. Seems a lot easier to use the same standard of care with all people who are causing static, however harmless it seems, rather than promote an environment that allows it to happen.
What if he starts a new twitter, pretending to make jokes as a fake Woosie, and then says something serious or looks for help? And what if people know it's him?
I don't understand why people don't have more common sense as to why people make these sorts of things illegal. Seems a lot easier to use the same standard of care with all people who are causing static, however harmless it seems, rather than promote an environment that allows it to happen.
This post was edited on 6/12/12 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:38 pm to FairhopeTider
I'm sorry but I just don't see why this person should be charged with a felony. There's no reason in my mind to think that this guy who was tweeting last night was anyone other than a prankster who was posting in poor taste.
Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:39 pm to Alahunter
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(1) Intentionally obstructs, impairs or hinders the administration of law or other governmental function; or
(2) Intentionally prevents a public servant from performing a governmental function.
I think the issue here would be proving intent. I seriously doubt there was an intent to do anything except be funny. Yes, it was classless and tasteless, but somewhat funny - I admit I laughed about the Christmas lights.
That said, LEOs don't have any sense of humor about these situations, and they shouldn't. It's their job to pursue any leads that will lead to apprehending this POS. Since there is no law against impersonating people on twitter, it seems to be the best thing to do would be track the guy using his IP address and ask him to stop. Chances are, if they approached it that way, and said his actions weren't helping their investigation, he'd be decent enough to delete the account. Just a thought.
Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:40 pm to RollTide1987
I'm hoping it was some intelligent, smart arse twelve year old daughter of a judge/senator
Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:40 pm to RollTide1987
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And if those tweets caused chaos at the scene last night and somehow made the cops second guess whether or not he was there then the investigators in this case should all be shot for gross incompetence
There are more people investigating than the 30 or so on the scene last night. You have multiple agencies involved. Following every and any lead they are given. Including people impersonating the suspect. The guys immaturity clearly violated the law in impeding the investigation. While armchair investigators want to think they don't have to check out certain things, they do. Bottom line, is the guy is responsible for what he did and will be appropriately charged. It's a misdemeanor, so he won't face jail time or anything, but hopefully it'll send a message to other people, that being an internet "hero" isn't larger than finding a murderer.
Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:40 pm to Bellabama
I don't think a man in desperation, ready to make a bold last stand in the attic of someone's home would tweet about finding Christmas lights and Gameboys while waiting for the cops to raid his hiding space.
Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:41 pm to RollTide1987
The next time you're at a movie theater, yell "fire."
It's just a prank.....
It's just a prank.....
This post was edited on 6/12/12 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:41 pm to RollTide1987
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I'm sorry but I just don't see why this person should be charged with a felony. There's no reason in my mind to think that this guy who was tweeting last night was anyone other than a prankster who was posting in poor taste.
I have a friend who prosecutes internet crimes for the AG's office. If you knew the amount of crap he has to go through to make sure people aren't slipping through cracks, I suspect you'd feel differently.
Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:42 pm to RollTide1987
Playing solitaire and listening to tlc's creep
Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:44 pm to FairhopeTider
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The next time you're at a movie theater, yell "fire."
Yeah...because the two scenarios are similar.
Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:44 pm to semotruman
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I think the issue here would be proving intent
Possibly. What if in investigating, this person turns out to be a friend of his?
This is the whole thing about it. Nobody knows who is making the posts or if he has any connection to the case at all. Due to that fact, they have to spend resources to check him out, which in turn, hinders the investigation.
Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:44 pm to FairhopeTider
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All the police have to do, if they want to make sure, is compare his twitter posts to his Facebook posts (and we know he has a Facebook). I 100% guarantee the grammar and sentence structure does NOT match up.
And even if that took 10 minutes, that's 10 minutes devoted to chasing that dead end when it could've been spent chasing other, possibly legitimate leads. Thus "hindering an investigation."
Go back and read the law as was posted above. Note the word "intentionally" in both sections. If they prosecute the guy who posted the fake twitter account, they will only compound their utter stupidity, because there's no way in hell they will ever be able to prove that the guy intentionally hindered an investigation.
Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:45 pm to Bellabama
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I have a friend who prosecutes internet crimes for the AG's office. If you knew the amount of crap he has to go through to make sure people aren't slipping through cracks, I suspect you'd feel differently.
Try me...one of my uncles is a former prosecutor.
This post was edited on 6/12/12 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:46 pm to Alahunter
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This is the whole thing about it. Nobody knows who is making the posts or if he has any connection to the case at all. Due to that fact, they have to spend resources to check him out, which in turn, hinders the investigation.
But the guy did not INTENTIONALLY hinder an investigation.
Posted on 6/12/12 at 7:46 pm to RollTide1987
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I don't understand why people don't have more common sense as to why people make these sorts of things illegal. Seems a lot easier to use the same standard of care with all people who are causing static, however harmless it seems, rather than promote an environment that allows it to happen.
That is the problem. Common sense is all but disappeared from America.
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