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re: Auburn QB Kiehl Frazier

Posted on 10/24/11 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/24/11 at 2:55 pm to
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He throws like a girl. Only kind of kidding. When he has thrown it, it has looked awful. Not just the results, but the actual throw doesn't even really look like a QB is throwing it. Looks like a half back pass.


Have you watched every throw he's made? I seriously doubt it.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54839 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 2:56 pm to
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When was the last time Auburn had a good QB? And not a physical RB who occasionally threw the ball, like Cam did.
Really? Cam wasn't a good QB?

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And with Malzahn running the spread, you still don't have a good QB among the three of them.
Malzahn's spread is a run based offense.

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Todd was supposed to be a quick fix.
Todd was brought in by TT and Franklin, not Malzahn.

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Cam was a quick fix.
Yep.

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The truth about the QB situation at AU has been shown. They can't recruit a decent QB.
Frazier will probably be pretty good. Cam was recruited by Auburn, he was decent.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 2:57 pm to
It's like shooting retarded, redneck fish in a barrel.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54839 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 2:57 pm to
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When he has thrown it, it has looked awful. Not just the results, but the actual throw doesn't even really look like a QB is throwing it. Looks like a half back pass.
You talking about Frazier? He typically throws a very good looking ball. He just hasn't delivered the ball on time, isn't used to the closing speed of the dbs and doesn't seem to read coverage well yet.
Posted by townhallsavoy
Member since Oct 2007
3045 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 2:58 pm to
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I just meant there is no reason to think he's awful based on his playing time (or lack thereof) this year.


Christ, you are dense.


Sorry, bud. I'm not the one here who is dense. Your red-clay brain is keeping you from seeing anything that devalues Frazier's future.

You asked a simple question - What has Frazier done to make people believe he sucks?

People gave you answers that are all valid based on actual in-game performances. It doesn't matter if he only had one throw. He hasn't won the starting job when the competition is putrid. He's thrown a few bad balls when he has had the chance.

He's young. We all as Auburn fans have hope; however, Frazier's dug himself a bit of a hole in his reputation. Rival fans are going to use the evidence that's there to criticize and flame.

You've offered nothing else but hopes and dreams and a desperate plea to see problems that may contribute to his inability to throw the ball.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 2:58 pm to
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You talking about Frazier? He typically throws a very good looking ball. He just hasn't delivered the ball on time, isn't used to the closing speed of the dbs and doesn't seem to read coverage well yet.

Exactly. He telegraphed his INT's and the passes were actually pretty solid.
Posted by King
Deep in the backwoods
Member since Sep 2008
18672 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 2:59 pm to
Brandon Allen>>>Kiehl Frazier
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54839 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:00 pm to
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Brandon Allen>>>Kiehl Frazier

TBD

Where you been bro?
Posted by 4nmylifetime
668 Neighbor to the Beast
Member since Jun 2009
2844 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:01 pm to
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Exactly. He telegraphed his INT's and the passes were actually pretty solid.


Wait, now you bragging about INT's?
Posted by Schwaaz
Member since Sep 2009
7375 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:01 pm to
Not enough data to determine if he will be good or not. If you want my opinion based on how he played last week I would have to say he will suck.

Posted by taylormade
Bakerhill
Member since Jan 2011
9883 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:03 pm to
I think he will be good..
he hits the hole quickly..
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:04 pm to
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townhallsavoy

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I have high hopes for the kid, but it's silly to attempt to refute the naysayers based on his performance.


A few posts later....

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People gave you answers that are all valid based on actual in-game performances.



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You've offered nothing else but hopes and dreams and a desperate plea to see problems that may contribute to his inability to throw the ball.


Link? I'm not a regular message board dumbass that you can confuse with a marginally high vocabulary and a weak argument. Please just stop responding to the thread. You are wasting both of our time.


Posted by King
Deep in the backwoods
Member since Sep 2008
18672 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:04 pm to
Hiding under a rock.

It will take Frazier a while guys. The SEC is not Berryville and Pea Ridge High

He will need a couple of years.
Posted by Bourbon Lover
Member since Oct 2011
106 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:04 pm to
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WDE24


What was AU before Cam? An 8-5 team that was lucky to even get to that record. What are they after Cam? Looks like they're headed to 7-5 at best. And with the same old average to below average QB play. Like others have said, any fool could have called Cam running the ball last year to an undefeated record.

Posted by Rocco Lampone
Raleigh, NC
Member since Nov 2010
3103 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:04 pm to
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he isn't playing is because he's fresh out of high school in a complicated system of reads and check downs (seemingly) and hasn't had enough time to develop.


Really? 36

This seems pretty simple!
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:05 pm to
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Wait, now you bragging about INT's?

No, moron. I was refuting the claim that his throws were not on point or "girly". Stop before you really embarrass yourself.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20446 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:06 pm to
He's not ready for the SEC at this point. Give him some time and let's see. A couple of years ago a certain #1 team had a QB who everyone thought wasn't worth a flip. NOW they're thankful to have him.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:06 pm to
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What was AU before Cam? An 8-5 team that was lucky to even get to that record. What are they after Cam? Looks like they're headed to 7-5 at best. And with the same old average to below average QB play. Like others have said, any fool could have called Cam running the ball last year to an undefeated record.


Jesus Christ, dude. You are fricking retarded.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54839 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:07 pm to
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What was AU before Cam?
A top 15 all time team.
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What are they after Cam?
A top 15 all time team.
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Like others have said, any fool could have called Cam running the ball last year to an undefeated record.
So he didn't throw for 30 TDs and almost 3000 yards with a 66% completion percentage and the top QB rating in the SEC?
This post was edited on 10/24/11 at 3:08 pm
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 3:08 pm to
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Really? 36

This seems pretty simple!


Again, another person who doesn't know the whole story attempting to refute a claim by someone who does. Cam didn't know Gus' offense. Gus drew a new offense around Cam. Go back to BamaOnline.
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