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Posted on 2/2/12 at 8:28 am to NYCAuburn
As for all this, it's just petty bs from some who don't like Saban or don't like Alabama or don't like that Saban is the best at his profession. Recruiting is ugly and college football is ugly behind the scenes, it is what it is. People want to enjoy the sport without realizing what really goes on. And guess what? Greyshirt offers happen everywhere. People need to chill out with the petty non-sense unless their program is doing things differently than every other. Greyshirting is rated G compared to a lot of stuff that goes on. And 95% of the people whining about this saying they feel bad for the kid couldn't care less about him, they're just using him to hate on somebody they don't like.
This post was edited on 2/2/12 at 8:35 am
Posted on 2/2/12 at 8:28 am to NYCAuburn
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Does the school have to honor a grey shirt commit when it comes time for EE
No, there are no papers signed for "greyshirt". I don't even think the NCAA recognizes the practice or term.
Posted on 2/2/12 at 8:28 am to CapstoneGrad04
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Philon is coming off knee surgery. He wouldn't see playing time as a true freshman anyway. Why burn your scholly on him when you can get him some extra rehab time and offer him the same sweet deal in January?
Couldnt a redshirt be used for a rehab year? Thats what most schools do
This post was edited on 2/2/12 at 8:30 am
Posted on 2/2/12 at 8:30 am to NYCAuburn
I guess it's up to thd coach, but I imagine if thd kid enrolled they would honor the scholarship. The difference now with thd 25 rule is other schools can freely recruit the greyshirts since they cant sign their LOI.
So if Taylor and Philon had taken the Greyshirt offers, theres a high probability they still would have ended up somewhere else once other schools started calling them.
So if Taylor and Philon had taken the Greyshirt offers, theres a high probability they still would have ended up somewhere else once other schools started calling them.
Posted on 2/2/12 at 8:31 am to bigpapamac
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If you sign a player to a greyshirt offer, he will count against your next recruiting class either way.
Unless this changed during the last year, this statement is false.
Posted on 2/2/12 at 8:31 am to NYCAuburn
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Couldnt a redshirt be used for a rehab year?
Sure, if there's room for him. Maybe we should all blame Slive and company for instituting a rule that restricts our own conference against all the other power conferences.
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If you sign a player to a greyshirt offer,
I've always thought there was some paper work involved. It's certainly recognized by the NCAA. Either way, I'll retract that part of my statement. My sentiment remains, people need to stop getting their panties in a wad because their precious little sport isn't all pure like they want it to be.
This post was edited on 2/2/12 at 8:34 am
Posted on 2/2/12 at 8:32 am to NYCAuburn
quote:You could, but why burn a redshirt for it? Most likely, he wouldn't see the field till after his second year.
Couldnt a redshirt be used for a rehab year? Thats what most schools do
Posted on 2/2/12 at 8:32 am to bigpapamac
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If you sign a player to a greyshirt offer, he will count against your next recruiting class either way.
This is not true
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As for all this, it's just petty bs from some who don't like Saban or don't like Alabama or don't like that Saban is the best at his profession. Recruiting is ugly and college football is ugly behind the scenes, it is what it is. People want to enjoy the sport without realizing what really goes on. And guess what? Greyshirt offers happen everywhere. People need to chill out with the petty non-sense unless their program is doing things differently than every other. Greyshirting is rated G compared to a lot of stuff that goes on. And 95% of the people whining about this saying they feel bad for the kid couldn't care less about him, they're just using him to hate on somebody they don't like.
I dont think you get it
Disclaimer, I have no problem with actual greyshirting if the kid is told about it in advance(we dont know for sure when Philon was told)
Posted on 2/2/12 at 8:34 am to NYCAuburn
According to most he was aware of the possibility for weeks.
Do help me understand then.
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I dont think you get it
Do help me understand then.
This post was edited on 2/2/12 at 8:35 am
Posted on 2/2/12 at 8:35 am to NYCAuburn
Philon was told about the possibility of a greyshirt weeks in advance.
Posted on 2/2/12 at 8:35 am to CapstoneGrad04
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He wouldn't see playing time as a true freshman anyway.
Normally the case for half of a first year class, should all of them get greyshirts also?
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Why burn your scholly on him
Because that was the offer that the player committed to, maybe the coach should also honor his commitment.
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him some extra rehab time a
Red-shirt?
Posted on 2/2/12 at 8:36 am to bona fide
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No, there are no papers signed for "greyshirt". I don't even think the NCAA recognizes the practice or term.
Thanks, Before they still faxed in their LOI, correct? Just were not allowed to enroll will after jan 1. Now with the new rules they just enroll in January
Posted on 2/2/12 at 8:39 am to bona fide
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Because that was the offer that the player committed to, maybe the coach should also honor his commitment.
How do you know he didn't commit knowing there was the chance he would greyshirt?
Posted on 2/2/12 at 8:40 am to pvilleguru
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Philon was told about the possibility of a greyshirt weeks in advance.
Everything I have seen was last week, with rumors of him being notified possibly a few weeks ago, but not concrete. Either way he should have been notified a little longer than a few weeks ago that there was a possibility.
Posted on 2/2/12 at 8:41 am to pvilleguru
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How do you know he didn't commit knowing there was the chance he would greyshirt?
We don't, but from whats out there currently, thats less than likely
Posted on 2/2/12 at 8:43 am to NYCAuburn
What it sounds like to me is that he was probably told he might greyshirt before the dead period around the bowl games. He wasn't told for sure that he would greyshirt until last week.
Posted on 2/2/12 at 8:44 am to NYCAuburn
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Philon was told about the possibility of a greyshirt weeks in advance.
Everything I have seen was last week, with rumors of him being notified possibly a few weeks ago, but not concrete. Either way he should have been notified a little longer than a few weeks ago that there was a possibility.
/this. I honestly think he should have notified upfront, which was not the case. You could tell how upset he was in the video.
Posted on 2/2/12 at 8:49 am to GonzoLeslie
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Nick Saban, college football's king of oversigning, medical redshirting, greyshirting and roster manipulation, turned in one of his all-time worst performances this year. Thanks to a new rule from the SEC that capped signing classes at 25 -- Alabama signed 26, so obviously the rule's working great
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The one whose coach couldn't even make it to National Signing Day before processing out two players.
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For years, Saban has treated college football like a cutthroat business. He's skirted recruiting rules, danced around scholarship limitations and been surrounded by more career ending injuries to third-string players than any coach in the history of organized athletics.
Posted on 2/2/12 at 8:49 am to NYCAuburn
He knew the possibilities. We flipped a couple of DL late. I guess he didn't think it would happen.
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