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re: Aub and Fla look very intimidating, don't know what to expect from Ga
Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:01 pm to dirty bastard
Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:01 pm to dirty bastard
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Expect Georgia to beat down both au and uf. After that, if we get to play lsu, they will receive one too.
Expect that UGA will lose to UF & AU so no worries about playing LSU. Ain't happenin'
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:23 pm to PanhandleDawg
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Expect that UGA will lose to UF
Same song different year.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:57 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
You will take your a$$ woopin and like it.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:22 pm to TrueTigerTale
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Not just my opinion, the two teams that gave LSU (the GOAT) fits in 2019 were Fla and Aub. In 2020, they both appear loaded!
I actually picked UF to take the East this year since Nueman opt’d out at UGA.
Personally, I think Kirby has Les Miles disease and will never rebuild that UGA offense.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:36 pm to GetmorewithLes
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I actually picked UF to take the East this year since Nueman opt’d out at UGA.
It's certainly possible.
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Personally, I think Kirby has Les Miles disease and will never rebuild that UGA offense.
Why? What makes you think that way? he brought in a new OC. I wouldn't expect a huge difference this year, but I believe we will be throwing more and we will see more QB running plays.
But hey. It's all guess work. There have been plenty of other coaches say they were going to shake the offense up only to see the same thing.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:47 pm to DawgsLife
He's on his third OC in three years. Trust me, as someone who went from Charlies Weiss, to Brent Pease, to Kurt Roper -- when you're playing musical chairs with your offensive coordinators, it's not a good sign.
It's hard to fundamentally change the team to a new offense, and to do it three times in three years is just not good for the long term.
Especially since Monken hasn't stayed at a program for more than two years as a coordinator since Jacksonville between 2007 - 2010.
In a decade, he has left four different jobs as a coordinator and two of them after a single year. This is not what offensive stability looks like.
It's hard to fundamentally change the team to a new offense, and to do it three times in three years is just not good for the long term.
Especially since Monken hasn't stayed at a program for more than two years as a coordinator since Jacksonville between 2007 - 2010.
In a decade, he has left four different jobs as a coordinator and two of them after a single year. This is not what offensive stability looks like.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:57 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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He's on his third OC in three years.
Chaney got a huge pay raise. $1.5M per year I think. This isnt a revolving door of incompetence like you imply.
We will see what Monken brings. He has had success in college and was hired twice at the NFL level (both head coaches terminated). So the football IQ is there.
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It's hard to fundamentally change the team to a new offense
Dawg fans expect growing pains. But we weren't successful in the run game because of the pass game last season. An opportunity to stretch the field would make defending the run much more difficult. Also, changing up the run blocking scheme could be just what the doctor ordered in terms of explosive runs. The only time we ran power last season was in the bowl game against Baylor (after pittman left). Check out the highlight reels from 2017 and 2018. There are a lot of lead blockers on those runs pulling.
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Especially since Monken hasn't stayed at a program for more than two years as a coordinator since Jacksonville between 2007 - 2010.
Except for the 2 years in the NFl where he had a lateral move after the head coach got canned and going from nfl OC to UGA OC, he kept moving up in his career. If that was a bad thing, MuLLLen wouldn't have hired Grantham whose career mirrored the same (common) job hopping for football coaches.
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In a decade, he has left four different jobs as a coordinator and two of them after a single year. This is not what offensive stability looks like
Again, all promotions except for 2019 and 2020. And a lateral move as NFL OC isnt a bad sign, imo.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 4:09 pm to meansonny
"New Browns coach Kevin Stefanski met with Monken this week, as he’s doing with all of the existing coaches, and the two decided it was best to part ways. Like most of the rest of the assistants, he’s paid by the Browns for two more seasons.
It ends a frustrating year for Monken, who never got a chance to call plays despite the offense finishing 22nd in points scored and 22nd in passing."
Also, the HC of Tampa Bay in 2018 was fired, and Monken wasn't retained lol. He took a downgrade, not an upgrade, since he wasn't calling plays at the Browns.
I think you're rewriting history here.
https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/todd-monkens-one-year-stint-with-the-browns-dysfunctional-offense-is-over-as-he-heads-to-georgia-as-oc.html
https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/12/30/18162199/dirk-koetter-fired-tampa-bay-buccaneers
It ends a frustrating year for Monken, who never got a chance to call plays despite the offense finishing 22nd in points scored and 22nd in passing."
Also, the HC of Tampa Bay in 2018 was fired, and Monken wasn't retained lol. He took a downgrade, not an upgrade, since he wasn't calling plays at the Browns.
I think you're rewriting history here.
https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/todd-monkens-one-year-stint-with-the-browns-dysfunctional-offense-is-over-as-he-heads-to-georgia-as-oc.html
https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/12/30/18162199/dirk-koetter-fired-tampa-bay-buccaneers
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 9/15/20 at 4:19 pm to GetmorewithLes
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Personally, I think Kirby has Les Miles disease and will never rebuild that UGA offense.
What? The offense averaged 35 ppg in '17 and '37 ppg in '18.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 4:27 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
If you want to parse it, that's fine.
Monken was making about $1M per year at each spot. The Bucs offense was 3rd in the NFL in total yards when Monken called plays. The Browns head coach got the job because of his playcalling as an interim. There is never room for 2 playcallers on a sideline.
Going from $1M a year to $1M a year isnt much of a demotion. But you can do a victory dance if you like. We are excited about Monken. I feel like he will do more good for us than Hevesy does as a co-offensive coordinator for you guys (ever wonder why no one promotes Mullen's staff?).
Monken was making about $1M per year at each spot. The Bucs offense was 3rd in the NFL in total yards when Monken called plays. The Browns head coach got the job because of his playcalling as an interim. There is never room for 2 playcallers on a sideline.
Going from $1M a year to $1M a year isnt much of a demotion. But you can do a victory dance if you like. We are excited about Monken. I feel like he will do more good for us than Hevesy does as a co-offensive coordinator for you guys (ever wonder why no one promotes Mullen's staff?).
Posted on 9/15/20 at 4:45 pm to meansonny
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If you want to parse it, that's fine.
"He upgraded, Straws!"
"I mean, he wasn't retained from either job..."
"Don't parse me, bro."
Also, I'm talking about his duties. He went from not being retained, to not being a playcaller, to college from the NFL. I'm not saying he's bad because of that, just telling you what actually happened.
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I feel like he will do more good for us than Hevesy does as a co-offensive coordinator for you guys (ever wonder why no one promotes Mullen's staff
Mullen is a pretty solid offensive coordinator, and you don't hear about turnaround because he has had the same staff for years.
Hevesy and Gonzales I think have been working for him for 20 years. He went to MSST and was one of the most successful coaches they ever had, after him the team imploded.
He came to Florida and has had the best offensive results since...he was here. Trask is now the most accurate Quarterback in Florida history (more than Spurrier, Tebow, Wuerffel and even Rex Grossman).
I feel like we're in pretty solid hands on offense, and it's nice to not have turnover every year.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 4:48 pm to DawgsLife
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Why? What makes you think that way? he brought in a new OC. I wouldn't expect a huge difference this year, but I believe we will be throwing more and we will see more QB running plays.
I am looking at the players he is bringing in on offense. I still think he is Going to put a run first run most offense on the field. I could be wrong.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 4:55 pm to RD Dawg
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What? The offense averaged 35 ppg in '17 and '37 ppg in '18.
Not trying to be a troll or anything but we played you guys the last two yrs and I did not see any imagination or aggressive play calling. I did see a lot of old school ground and pound.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 5:06 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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He's on his third OC in three years.
Tends to happen when they are offered other jobs.
quote:Hasn't really hurt Alabama a whole lot and worked okay for LSU last season. Changing coordinators all the time isn't good, but it also shows you have people other teams want, does it not?
Trust me, as someone who went from Charlies Weiss, to Brent Pease, to Kurt Roper -- when you're playing musical chairs with your offensive coordinators, it's not a good sign.
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It's hard to fundamentally change the team to a new offense, and to do it three times in three years is just not good for the long term.
I can see that. But it also does not mean disaster. I mean Alabama had one of their most successful years offensively last year and they have continuous turnover. (NO. I am not comparing us to Alabama, just making the point that turnover is not necessarily terrible)
quote:Okay. Not sure why it affects us this year.
Especially since Monken hasn't stayed at a program for more than two years as a coordinator since Jacksonville between 2007 - 2010.
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In a decade, he has left four different jobs as a coordinator and two of them after a single year. This is not what offensive stability looks like.
Maybe you are overselling stability? certainly it is nice. But there are plenty of coordinators and coaches that have been at their schools for extended periods of time and their fan base wishes they would leave. Auburn? Vanderbilt has lots of stability, too.
We expect turnover. I wonder why more schools are not trying to hire away Florida coaches?
Posted on 9/15/20 at 5:08 pm to GetmorewithLes
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Not trying to be a troll or anything but we played you guys the last two yrs and I did not see any imagination or aggressive play calling. I did see a lot of old school ground and pound.
That's a reasonable thing to say......manly because it is true. One reason we got rid of our OC from last season. He never should have been our OC.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 5:10 pm to GetmorewithLes
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I am looking at the players he is bringing in on offense. I still think he is Going to put a run first run most offense on the field. I could be wrong.
Honestly? What I have been reading from our insiders is that the offense might be similar, but more balanced. More passing, and probably some QB designed runs. But one thing they stress is we should be passing more.
Now how that plays out in actual games....who knows?
But, yes, we will always try to bring in excellent RBs, but we also brought in an outstanding class of receivers last year.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 5:25 pm to DawgsLife
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That's a reasonable thing to say......manly because it is true.
About '19,sure and it's the reason I didn't bring it up.
About '18? Its not close to being true. Les,thinks it's true because he probably only watched us once that year.
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 9/15/20 at 6:00 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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He went from not being retained
Who the frick ever gets retained? It is usually a special teams or strength and conditioning guy so that there is one person on the staff who knows the team.
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and you don't hear about turnaround because he has had the same staff for years
He has the same staff for years because no one else wants them. Facts of life.
How much of a hero is Hevesy for you guys? What would it actually take to upgrade? Does he have naked pictures of MuLLLen fricking a shark?
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Trask is now the most accurate Quarterback in Florida history (more than Spurrier, Tebow, Wuerffel and even Rex Grossman).
Check down charlie. Works great in the 4th quarter against prevent defense.
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it's nice to not have turnover every year.
Keep holding onto that.
I think Dawg fans are happy for the change from Coley. 1 year and done.
I also think we were happy with the promotions for Tucker, Chaney, & Pittman. Eventually, Lanning will get grabbed. So will McGee. That's what happens when the team has success. That's what happens when a team struggles. What's in between? Mediocrity.
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:52 pm to RD Dawg
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About '18? Its not close to being true. Les,thinks it's true because he probably only watched us once that year.
I agree. I was talking about last season with Coley as a whole. But we have been overly run heavy for a couple of years now, imo. Read yesterday that they think we go MUCH closer to 50/50 run/pass.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:42 pm to GetmorewithLes
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Not trying to be a troll or anything but we played you guys the last two yrs and I did not see any imagination or aggressive play calling. I did see a lot of old school ground and pound.
You didnt watch closely then. Heck, we called 2 deep TD passes in our first drive last year. The WR dropped one, the QB missed the other, just as he did in 2018.
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