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re: AU will beat Bama or LSU this year

Posted on 6/12/12 at 4:38 pm to
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 4:38 pm to
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lulz


Les is nothing without Saban building his program for him.

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So what?


Les rarely ever out coaches somebody...he just has better talent and that has started to fade in recent years.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 4:39 pm to
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Crow Pie

this specific discussion is about DS's assertion that Les out coached Chiz in 2010. If you have a graph that would help show that, I would love to laugh at it.
Posted by tigahfromtheham
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 4:39 pm to
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Chizik is a much better coach than Les


No way you actually believe that. Chizik will be fired within three years.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 4:40 pm to
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They will beat someone probably not named bama or LSU. Teams improving just not at QB position and defense isn't quite ready to hold good teams in the teens or lower just yet.


Been a while since I've seen an AU defense hold teams (good or bad) in the teens or lower.

Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 4:40 pm to
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Ok then Chiz gets no credit for 2010, it was all Cam.

You were the one making the claim that Les out coached Chiz. Went as far as to suggest this was a matter of fact as opposed to simply opinion (an uninformed one at that).
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 4:40 pm to
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Been a while since I've seen an AU defense hold teams (good or bad) in the teens or lower.

I remember the 2010 LSU game.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 4:40 pm to
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Les is nothing without Saban building his program for him.


Get with the program dude, this is so 2006. I guess all those 9th year seniors we had last year were the reason we went 13-0

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he just has better talent and that has started to fade in recent years


It has? We're still pretty fricking talented the last time I checked.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 4:43 pm to
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It has? We're still pretty fricking talented the last time I checked.


I'm talking about the most recent recruiting classes.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 4:43 pm to
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Went as far as to suggest this was a matter of fact


It is

And for the record I think Chiz is a better coach then most will give credit for. Most people are like you and just give all the credit to Cam but I think he did a very good job putting his players in position to be successful. I don't think he's as good as Les or Saban but there's no shame in that.

Funny how you don't want to give Les any credit but then in the same breath want to say Chiz is some kind of great coach even though he's been very average save 1 year.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 4:43 pm to
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Les is nothing without Saban building his program for him.


did i just wake up in 2007? frickin' seriously?

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Les rarely ever out coaches somebody...he just has better talent and that has started to fade in recent years.


sweet Jesus....just when i thought you couldn't say anything more stupid.......you go and completely redeem yourself
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 4:43 pm to
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I'm talking about the most recent recruiting classes.



We're #5 on rivals right now....
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 4:44 pm to
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I'm talking about the most recent recruiting classes.


you mean the one that Rivals has at #5 right now and will probably finish in the top 3?
Posted by Crow Pie
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 4:44 pm to
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this specific discussion is about DS's assertion that Les out coached Chiz in 2010. If you have a graph that would help show that, I would love to laugh at it.


I would have a want to think that the scroreboard is indicative of the coach. Botton line...No Cam then Chizit would be fired already.

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 4:45 pm to
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you mean the one that Rivals has at #5 right now and will probably finish in the top 3?


Saban's 14th year seniors
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
39829 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 4:45 pm to
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We're #5 on rivals right now....



you probably were last year too at this time, but didn't finish there.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 4:45 pm to
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you probably were last year too at this time, but didn't finish there.



We had a small class last year and we were never ranked highly nor were we ever going to be because of the dynamics of that particular class. 1 year doesn't mean a whole lot.
This post was edited on 6/12/12 at 4:46 pm
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54842 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 4:46 pm to
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It is

No it isn't and it really isn't debatable.

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I don't think he's as good as Les or Saban but there's no shame in that.
He definitely isn't as good as Saban at the moment and he doesn't have the record to stand up to Miles at the moment. I don't have trouble acknowledging that.

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Funny how you don't want to give Les any credit
I'll give him credit when he deserves it, but not for "out coaching" chiz in the 2010 game. it just isn't true.

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in the same breath want to say Chiz is some kind of great coach
I don't know how good Chiz is yet. he has earned himself a couple of more years to prove himself. He has certainly done a lot right.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 4:46 pm to
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Saban's 14th year seniors




its amazing how far these auburn and arkansas fans are stuck up bamas arse right now when it comes to LSU. never thought i'd see it
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 4:47 pm to
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once in a lifetime QB like Tebow or Cam


They both happend in my life time...and were on the same team. Maybe not the best use of once in a lifetime.

You may ask yourself, who is this awesome QB
You may ask yourself, will you ever let it go
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 4:47 pm to

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I'll give him credit when he deserves it, but not for "out coaching" chiz in the 2010 game. it just isn't true.


You're either willfully blind or you just don't understand much about football.
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