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re: As the jar cracks - Johnny Manziel's downfall is upon us
Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:02 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:02 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
You guys always criticize Mack Brown, and it always makes me laugh. Maybe you should go look at your record against him? Has he underachieved recently, sure. But you guys would have taken him in a heartbeat if you could have won a national championship and made it to 4 BCS games.
This post was edited on 8/11/13 at 2:03 pm
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Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:03 pm to utisdabomb12
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You guys always criticize Mack Brown, and it always makes me laugh. Maybe you should go look at your record against him? Has he underachieved recently, sure. But you guys would have taken him in a heartbeat if you could have won a national championship and made it to 4 BCS games.
And we then would have had him fired after going 5-7. Because your fanbase doesn't care that much about football you are fine though. He has the best job in the world. Tons of pay and resources with zero expectations and pressure
This post was edited on 8/11/13 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:04 pm to tmc94
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If you pay someone for services, you are required by the IRS to 1099 them. They take that shite very seriously. Failure to do so is tax fraud. These brokers do it every day and opening their books up to say they were breaking the law would probably get them an IRS anal probe.
Like so many dumbass Aggies posting in this forum, you have no clue about 1099's. It's not FRAUD to not issue a 1099 and is subject to a max $100 penalty. Get a fricking clue.....
Also, merchandise is exempt on a 1099-MISC form so the broker could declare it as such. It might be disallowed, but again, there's no fraud.
Lastly, what evidence do you have anyone has committed "tax fraud"?
Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:04 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
That right there is why people think your fanbase is crazy. Going crazy after one bad season. The overreaction that runs rampant in the Aggy fanbase is almost hysterical. Again 3-1 in BCS games within a ten year time frame, not many schools can claim that (but I guess he isn't meeting your lofty expectations).
This post was edited on 8/11/13 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:06 pm to utisdabomb12
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That right there is why people think your fanbase is crazy.
Of course our fanbase is crazy, you keep saying this like its a bad thing. Every good major football fanbase is crazy. Yours is not crazy at all, which is why there is no pressure on your team or staff
This post was edited on 8/11/13 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:07 pm to utisdabomb12
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I would see they are doing alright in developing recruits
Please please keep thinking this. Please and thank you.
All is well on the 40 acres, y'all.
Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:08 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Nobody is as crazy as your fanbase. The siege mentality/burn down the house attitude of your fanbase over the past week has been funny and embarrassing. Bama and other SEC schools take their football serious and might have a level of craziness, but they never cross the threshold you guys do.
Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:09 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Please please keep thinking this. Please and thank you.
3-1 in BCS games. What you got?
Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:10 pm to utisdabomb12
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The Ohio State players were essentially punished merely off eyewitness testimony.
Well, that and fricking emails between members of the AD discussing the coverup
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There's just as much evidence in this case as there was in the Ohio State case.
No, no there is not. The NCAA had official statements from tattoo artists, emails, multiple credible witnesses who actually saw the transactions, etc.
All the NCAA has against Manziel is the hearsay, second hand info provided by ESPN supposedly from brokers (all of which have criminal records) who say they paid him. They also have Joe Schads report of a tape (which nobody else on the planet has seen) with Manziel saying "I was never here" and, if it exists, shows no exchange of goods. They have no official statements, no tangible physical evidence, no outside parties who saw any exchange of money and none of the supposed witnesses are willing to cooperate with the investigation.
Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:16 pm to Roger Klarvin
1) The emails had nothing to do with players being punished. That had to do with sanctions against the University. Totally separate issue. But good try though.
2) Only in Aggie land is multiple sources, video evidence forthcoming, no justification for signing thousands of autographs that were authenticated, not evidence. Why are you treating this like it's in the legal system? I'm not even saying he's going to be found guilty, simply that there is evidence and precedent for punishment by the NCAA. Again total overreaction.
2) Only in Aggie land is multiple sources, video evidence forthcoming, no justification for signing thousands of autographs that were authenticated, not evidence. Why are you treating this like it's in the legal system? I'm not even saying he's going to be found guilty, simply that there is evidence and precedent for punishment by the NCAA. Again total overreaction.
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Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:20 pm to utisdabomb12
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The Ohio State players were essentially punished merely off eyewitness testimony.
say what?
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The NCAA violations were discovered when the name of the local memorabilia dealer, Dennis Talbott, was seen on checks Pryor was depositing in his personal bank account.
Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:20 pm to Roger Klarvin
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shows no exchange of goods.
so you're taking the politician approach of deny, deny, deny, until cornered, then worry about a defense/damage control, JFF is a classless, self absorbed, self entitled little punk, hope you aggies are proud of him
Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:23 pm to utisdabomb12
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3-1 in BCS games. What you got?
Thats all well and good, but he is 11-17 against weak Big XII competition the last three years.
He was great once, but he has lost touch. Im not sure whats wrong, but nobody should EVER go 11-17 over a three year stretch in that conference with top-10 recruiting classes every year.
Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:24 pm to tmc94
The point was that the investigation was started from eyewitness testimony (also if you read anything about the case, the most critical piece of evidence was actually said testimony). I.e. multiple sources and other circumstantial evidence such as video evidence would almost certainly give the NCAA a basis for a suspension. Not saying it will, but that there's really not a large distinction.
Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:25 pm to 777Tiger
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so you're taking the politician approach of deny, deny, deny, until cornered, then worry about a defense/damage control, JFF is a classless, self absorbed, self entitled little punk, hope you aggies are proud of him
They sure live by that honor code.
Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:26 pm to arrakis
what are you talking about? This isn't merchandise, They aren't buying the merchandise from the athletes, they buy work, ie signing stuff. And yes, purposely not submitting a 1099 to defraud the IRS is in fact pretty fricking serious. This is how people go about underreporting income. If over $600 it's actually felony serious.
If you think this is the only tax code violation these guys are breaking, you're also incredibly naive. But this is certainly enough to get them in very hot water with the feds.
If you think this is the only tax code violation these guys are breaking, you're also incredibly naive. But this is certainly enough to get them in very hot water with the feds.
Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:27 pm to Roger Klarvin
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He was great once, but he has lost touch. Im not sure whats wrong, but nobody should EVER go 11-17 over a three year stretch in that conference with top-10 recruiting classes every year.
Like I said he's underachieved in the past few years. I just find it funny that you guys criticize him, after he owned you. I saw the same thing on this forum with a Sooner. You guys were making fun of Stoops when he has historically destroyed the Aggies.
Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:27 pm to utisdabomb12
of course it did. Just about every investigation starts there. What does that have to do with anything. You said they were punished with no evidence. They simply weren't.
Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:28 pm to utisdabomb12
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1) The emails had nothing to do with players being punished. That had to do with sanctions against the University. Totally separate issue. But good try though.
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2) Only in Aggie land is multiple sources, video evidence forthcoming, no justification for signing thousands of autographs that were authenticated, not evidence. Why are you treating this like it's in the legal system? I'm not even saying he's going to be found guilty, simply that there is evidence and precedent for punishment by the NCAA. Again total overreaction.
The NCAA has no sources, none have talked nor do they intend to talk to the NCAA. There is no video evidence, one reporter saying he saw a video that nobody else even knows exists is not evidence. And of course, no player is ever going to be punished for signing thousands of autographs.
Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:28 pm to tmc94
Not once did I say they were punished with no evidence. I said that there really isn't a large distinction between the cases in terms of evidence.
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