re: As the jar cracks - Johnny Manziel's downfall is upon us

My two cents.

1) It's going to be interesting to see what happens when the NCAA starts asking Manziel and Uncle Nate questions. This is where I think Manziel is going to run into trouble. If the NCAA catches him lying about anything or his story doesn't corroborate with Uncle Nate, there will be problems. Really, how is he going to answer a question about signing thousands of autographs at a random person's house?

2) The idea that there has to be a money trail is the funniest thing I've ever heard. This isn't a court of law, the NCAA doesn't have a burden to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. If they have multiple witnesses and ever get the video that shows Manziel agreeing to take money, he's in trouble. There's been punishments handed down by the NCAA with a lot less evidence then there is currently against Manziel.

3) Everyone keeps saying the NCAA is going to have a disincentive to punish Manziel because of the current court case against the NCAA. Please, if Manziel broke a rule that he agreed to they have no grounds for suing the NCAA (specifically in how they handled this situation). If anything the NCAA has an incentive to punish Manziel to show consistency after punishing AJ Green and the Ohio State players.

4) That video tape is going to surface, just wait and watch. You really think Schad would risk his career on a bold face lie? Once the broker finds a high enough bidder, that video is going to be released.

5) These investigations take a while, so Sumlin is going to have a huge choice to make. Play Manziel and risk sanctions/forfeiting games or suspend him. There's a reason A&M's lawyers haven't really said anything about the issue. They are doing their own investigation, and if they find anything remotely pinning this on Manziel you can expect a suspension by A&M. The risk is too high to play him.

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... and ever get the video that shows Manziel agreeing to take money, he's in trouble.

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Which video would that be? Joe Schad's report didn't say anything like that.

1) The video where he says I can't take "additional money for an inscription, because I've gotten in trouble before". The additional part implies he took money from that dealer already, and the in trouble before implies he has taken money in the past.

2) The "you better not tell anyone about this" is also pretty incriminating.

If you don't think the NCAA will see this as evidence, you are delusional. Again, it's not a court of law......

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1) The video where he says I can't take "additional money for an inscription, because I've gotten in trouble before".

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He didn't say that, either.

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2) The "you better not tell anyone about this" is also pretty incriminating.

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I don't think so. That could just as easily mean "I'm sick of autographs. I did this for you but if you tell anybody, we're done."

FWIW I think he's guilty. But the evidence we've heard so far is very thin.

You typed that out to sound like the big NCAA will be questioning kids who aren't prepared for a confrontation.
An Ive league lawyer who's dealt with the NCAA is probably not going to let it go down like that.

Where do I bid on the video?

You don't understand how the NCAA works, if you don't answer their questions they are going to suspend you. Sure they are going to have answers, that's a no brainer. But when you have 3 to 4 sources, multiple outside parties like Uncle Nate/Texas A&M there's a chance of mistakes. You act like other instances where players have been caught lying to the NCAA didn't have top notch lawyers. Does Dez Bryant ring a bell?

What have I stated about evidence, that isn't commonly known by the public (I.e. the video, multiple sources, etc). As for the process, that's also commonly known. You act like we can't infer about the process of the NCAA, even though there are past cases that give us plenty of insight into how they act.

As for obsession, please. I enjoy college football. You can't handle the questioning so you have to cop out with that excuse. I'll give you some credit at least you aren't blaming ESPN, the NCAA, or everyone else in that comment.

Looks like someone is trying to hide the evidence

WTT: wheels for 2012 Mercedes (A&M Campus)

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What have I stated about evidence, that isn't commonly known by the public (I.e. the video, multiple sources, etc). As for the process, that's also commonly known. You act like we can't infer about the process of the NCAA, even though there are past cases that give us plenty of insight into how they act.

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1. The NCAA has no known witnesses yet you are counting 3 to 4. If they did then they likely submitted an NOI. ESPN has even asked each of their sources if they plan on cooperating and none do.
2. Texas A&M is not a witness. Texas A&M is an institution. Only people can be witnesses.
3. Anyone that comes forward to say they paid any athlete would be incriminating themselves of tax fraud
4. Uncle fricker will never talk to the NCAA. He doesn't have to and the NCAA can't compel him to. If he didn't do anything, why bother and if he did he'd be incriminating himself on tax fraud
5. The NCAA does not need to follow the rules of the court. However, they do need to follow their own processes. They have been successfully sued on this issue. They cannot be arbitrary and they cannot suspend without evidence
6. The tape is meaningless without the corroboration of that broker. The "quotes" you keep using are misrepresentations of paraphrases based on what the broker told Schad about the conversation. The tape itself would be useless in the NCAA's hands
7. This is a 200+ page thread and you have yet to say anything profound. And worse, you act condescending like you know what you are talking about. And I do in fact think it's truly pathetic and wonder how miserable your life must be

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As for obsession, please. I enjoy college football.

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This thread isn't about college football. There are a ton of threads here about football. You haven't posted in any of them.